I have repeatedly switch back and forth between the two version (V9 and V11)

I assure that I have changed nothing else and that cpu usage is higher on
the V11

I watch V9 cpu usage
I go from V9 to V11 and cpu usage increases
Back to V9: it goes down
Back to V11 it goes up.

How else does one state this problem?

It would make a lot of sense if Declude were to say that they have made a
change in the code that would cause this, but that is not the case.



Harry Vanderzand 
inTown Internet & Computer Services 
11 Belmont Ave. W., Kitchener, ON,N2M 1L2
519-741-1222

 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Barker
> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 4:14 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem
> 
> Andy, don't be scared I can hold you hand :)
> 
> >> How do I explain the apparent inconsistency where users 
> report that 
> >> the
> CPU consumption is considerable higher than in the prior version? 
> 
> First we need to confirm that it is decludeproc that has 
> increased in CPU usage. So far I have not seen any real 
> statistics for this other than what has been posted on the 
> boards. But I am certainly trying to validate this information.
> 
> >> How can the various "process" settings make any difference 
> - at worst 
> >> it
> should spike quickly and then be idle?
> 
> Why do you think it should spike and then become idle ?
> 
> >> What is spending all this other CPU time on? Looping, looking for
> directory content?
> 
> Perhaps an incorrect assumption, Declude actually uses less 
> CPU, between 3% and 20% on average.
> 
> David B
> www.declude.com
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Schmidt
> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 2:33 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem
> 
> Okay, I'm watching these discussions - as I'm still truly 
> scared of upgrading Declude.
> 
> I just can't figure out the logic behind all the CPU 
> consumption and why certain process parameters are suspected 
> to have detrimental effects.
> 
> 
> Please verify my thinking:
> 
> A machine that needs to process a given amount of mail will 
> require a certain number of instructions, which are reflected 
> in the total CPU usage.
> If several messages come in almost simultaneously, then I can 
> either process them right away using parallel processes, 
> causing a short spike in CPU use - or I can process them one 
> by one, using up the same CPU time over time and causing a 
> few seconds delay in mail delivery.
> 
> Either way, the overall CPU consumption should be the same - 
> just distributed differently.
> 
> 
> So - if the above is true, how do I explain the apparent 
> inconsistency where users report that the CPU consumption is 
> considerable higher than in the prior version? How can the 
> various "process" settings make any difference - at worst it 
> should spike quickly and then be idle?
> 
> If the old Declude handled the amount of mail with moderate 
> CPU use and without causing noticeable delays in mail 
> delivery to the users - then I can't see how the same outcome 
> suddenly should require x times the CPU resources, no matter 
> how inefficient the process settings are? What is spending 
> all this other CPU time on? Looping, looking for directory content?
> 
> 
> Best Regards
> Andy Schmidt
> 
> Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
> Fax:    +1 201 934-9206 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> GlobalWeb.net Webmaster
> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 10:13 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem
> 
> I changed the THREADS to 75 and CPU wnet down to about avg 
> 50%.   I'll try
> WAITFORMAIL in just a bit.
> 
> I also noticed in my spool folder I have a new folder called 
> "s" that appeared with the time stamp of the new proc 
> install.  There is nothing in it; just a blank folder. I deleted it.
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Randy Armbrecht
> Global Web Solutions, Inc.
> 804-346-5300 x112
> 877-800-GLOBAL (4562) x112
> http://globalweb.net
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Barker
> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 9:39 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem
> 
> Randy try changing
> 
> WAITFORMAIL   1500
> 
> To
> 
> WAITFORMAIL   500
> 
> See if that changes the delay.
> 
> David B
> www.declude.com
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> GlobalWeb.net Webmaster
> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 7:16 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem
> 
> We upgraded to 3.0.5.11 tonight - big difference in CPU in 
> that it's way down from the 3.0.5.5 - but proc folder will 
> accumulate approx 35-50 messages before it'll dump them to 
> the work folder.  Do not see any problems so far except for 
> the second or two delay in this...
> 
> We have in our declude.cfg:
> THREADS       50
> WAITFORMAIL   1500
> WAITFORTHREADS  1000
> WAITBETWEENTHREADS    1
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Randy Armbrecht
> Global Web Solutions, Inc.
> 804-346-5300 x112
> 877-800-GLOBAL (4562) x112
> http://globalweb.net
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> Harry Vanderzand
> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 1:52 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Cc: 'Technical Support'
> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem
> 
> Dual Xeon 3.4Ghz 2GB ram  imail 8.05 declude, sniffer & invurbl
> 
> The issue is that without changing anything other than going 
> to 3.05.11 this occurs
> 
> It appears that processing has changed
> 
> If I could get some idea from Declude about this. 
> 
> Maybe I have to change my declude.cfg?
> 
> It currently is
> 
> threads       20
> waitformail 500
> waitforthreads 1500
> waitbetweenthreads 100
> 
> Harry Vanderzand
> inTown Internet & Computer Services
> 11 Belmont Ave. W., Kitchener, ON,N2M 1L2
> 519-741-1222
> 
>  
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Carter
> > Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 1:30 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem
> > 
> > Interesting ... .11 is working for me better than any 
> previous version
> > -- proc and work are quickly cleared.
> > 
> > What process is jumping the CPU up so high? Decludeproc or the 
> > anti-virus
> > scanner(s) or something else?  How about some more info (CPU, RAM, 
> > declude.cfg contents, do you run AVAFTERJM?, that kind of thing.)
> > 
> > John
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harry 
> > Vanderzand
> > Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 12:10 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] 30511 problem
> > 
> > When I switch from 3.05.9 to 3.05.11 CPU usage goes up considerably 
> > and mail gets processed much slower and starts to backlog.
> > 
> > I have had to switch back to 3.05.9
> > 
> > Harry Vanderzand
> > inTown Internet & Computer Services
> > 11 Belmont Ave. W., Kitchener, ON,N2M 1L2
> > 519-741-1222
> > 
> > 
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