This is a repost of the original email sent yesterday morning. Happy
holidays to all of you.

Barry
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There have been a number of emails being posted to this list and others that
are both inaccurate and misleading. To clarify the situation:

Beta Trial Installs

Issue - The availability of the Beta Trial software for Declude and
SmarterMail.

We specified clearly in our email to all customers, posted on the Home page
of our web site and at the point of download the only permissible manner in
which we would accept participants for this important process. 

"Declude Beta Release for SmarterMail - For those of you who wish to try the
Beta version of Declude for SmarterMail please email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with
your name, organization, email address, email system host name, operating
system and telephone number and we will contact you. No keys will be issued
in the short term without going through this process."

Resolution - We are now restricting all downloads to those who follow the
request procedures

Security

Issue - Changes to the licensing process. 

It is the right and expectation of our customers that we (Declude) should
continue to enhance our software to better enable them to provide the
protection their customers expect and deserve, while providing good value
for their investment.

We believe this means, in part, that our customers should not be asked to
underwrite the cost of identifying and prosecuting those organizations and
individuals who have made and used unauthorized and otherwise pirated copies
of Declude software. 

Accordingly we have introduced enhanced security procedures in the current
release. The system will report to us when it detects an anomaly in the
licensing process. This will not in any way prevent your software from
operating.

Privacy Policy and Phone Home

Issue - The availability of a Published Privacy Policy.

In the "Privacy Policy" section of our web site we clearly make statements
as to how we use information collected from our customers. Furthermore we
state that we use the information collected from our customers email
systems:
"To validate electronically the software license. In the process of
collecting this information we do NOT collect any personal information about
our clients or their customers or end users."

System Recovery

Issue - There has been concern expressed as to what may happen if a server
crashed during a non regular support period, and reinstallation or changing
a hardware component is required. 

The answer is nothing, your software will continue to operate in the same
manner that it does today. There are provisions in place to deal with system
crashes, rebuilds and multiple NICs.

Automatic Install and Backup

Issue - Provision of a backup functions within the latest version of our
installation software.

We have introduced into the install process an automatic backup of your
existing installation so that in the unlikely event that you need to revert
to the previous version it is available to you. This process will add a
backup each time your system is updated.

As ever if you have concerns please feel free to contact me directly at
[EMAIL PROTECTED] or by telephone at (978) 499-2933.

Barry Simpson
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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barry Simpson
Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2004 11:20 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail move, and some complaining

I did post this morning to both this and the Virus lists but for some reason
it did not appear. I will re-post tomorrow when I get to the office.

Barry

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Serge
Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2004 8:43 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail move, and some complaining

Oops, i did not mean the customers
Went back and read my post, i meant to say why did BARRY not post any 
explanation here, Not you John :)
Also i understand there are anti piracy details that cannot be shared here, 
he did give some users some details about failsafe measures, cold spare 
server, ... that Barry could have shared here to make us feel we are not 
beiing ignored.

Concerning anti-piracy measures, as posted here, everybody can also use same

MAC address
One way to safely fight piracy, for declude and us customers, is a way for 
declude to phone home with basic information, once an illegal copy is 
detected, they disable the "activation code" in their database, and the next

time that copy phone home, it disable itself. All this after contacting the 
original customer, giving him a new code, so not to disable  the "legal" 
copy
That may be one way to do it, i'm sure there are other (and better ways), 
but the important issue is that the "legal" customer can change as many ips 
and macs as he wants, without encoutering any problem, until the declude 
folks contact him, listen to him, and warn him.

But we should have already been warned that changes are taking places, 
phonning home is already happening, and what failsafe measures are beiing 
considered

Finaly, As always with software, there will always be someone who will 
reverse engineer the code and create a "crack" to disable the security 
mecanisme, that is the price of success.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Tolmachoff (Lists)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, December 24, 2004 12:40 AM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail move, and some complaining


> Also, I think it is ironic that, after most of us decided to stay with
Imail
> because of declude, we now are getting this treatment from CPHZ.
> I do not understand why CPHZ expalined privatly to a few customers about
> what is going on, and still has not posted something on this list.
> Should we understand that CPHZ values some customers more than others ?
> Apparently, some customer were satisfied with the explanation they got.
Why
> not post this explanation here ?

I have not posted the explanation because of trust. Barry explained a bit to
me knowing I would not spread it out on the Internet. I am sure the others
that Barry talked to will say the same.

CPHZ values all of its customers. If anything, Scott may dislike me more
than others because of the volume of e-mail over time from me he receives. I
must hold the record for having tabs and spaces where they do not belong.

The root of the problem is, and one which has caused Declude a great deal of
grief, is dishonesty and theft.

There are those out there, either lurking or being malicious, that recognize
Declude as a quality product and either use it without paying, or study what
it does to go around it. Per Barry, Declude KNOWS that there is a humongous
chunk of declude.exe files in use THAT ARE NOT LICENSED USES! That equals a
major chunk of money.

About a year ago, there was a lot of discussion over sharing files. I was
even going to set up a web site to allow all of us to share our files to
help fight this war on spam.

However, I had heavy reservations of misuse and abuse. It would have to be
done in one of 2 ways. 1: Create a private group where you proved who you
are and then are allowed in. Many had privacy concerns about this, and how
useful it would actually be. 2: It would be available to all. Problem is
that means spammers could also get it, and therefore know how to get around
our filters.

Bottom line, there is a core group of Declude users who are known and
trusted. Outside of that group, there are lurkers, spammers, users with
malicious intent, thieves and so forth. The majority of those outside the
group however are honest professional admins. The problem is, there is no
way to tell you apart from all the bad stuff.

Now please understand, the above paragraph is not meant to elevate or put
down anyone. It has to do with a time honored thing called trust. (Although
no matter how I put it some will take offense even though none is intended.)

Therefore, Declude has to come up with a way to protect its products and
name, and receive the revenue it is do for its products.

Now, one suggestion that people make is to use the IP address. And all the
thieves out there are going to say, lets all make our server have an address
of 10.10.10.31. DOESN'T WORK!

And for questions about why has not Barry posted himself, I will answer from
experience: I have a character flaw. I get hot under the collar easy. When I
get hot under the collar, what I say, or type, is not always the best. When
I am accused of doing things that are not true, I get hot under the collar.

John Tolmachoff
Engineer/Consultant/Owner
eServices For You


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