Great Dave, 
thanks a lot for the help. I'll make some changes and keep an eye on it.

Cheers
Royce
CICI

At 03:14 PM 15/04/2004 -0400, you wrote:
>Hi Royce-
>
>Sounds like you've got a few things going on there. Understand, I'm on
>version 8.05 now, so your mileage may vary. I'll try to keep it the basics.
>
>First off, it sounds to me like you have too much stuff in your spool
>directory.
>
>I suggest that you zip your older log files and move them out of the spool
>directory.
>
>You should be able to delete all spool files older than one or two days if
>you use normal SMTP retry settings like ten attempts half an hour apart.
>
>How large are the attachment files? They may be stuck in the queue because
>they were never delivered. That can happen if they are large, particularly
>larger than 2MB.
>
>If you have no lists, you should not have an imailsrv alias. Delete that if
>it's present.
>
>Delete the nobody alias if it's present. That will let Imail reject
>misaddressed messages before it processes them. This is way more efficient,
>and it should cut down on your processor and disk activity quite a lot.
>
>Maybe others here have more / better suggestions.
>
>-Dave Doherty
> Skywaves, Inc.
>
>
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Royce Burnett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 11:06 AM
>Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] tricks for dealing with null senders?
>
>
>> Hi Dave,
>> thanks for the response.
>>
>> I'm not sure of the mechanics of rejection, all I did to stop this for now
>> was to check the "reject null senders" box in smtp security. Please
>> understand that I'm just a guy who got stuck with this job, and 90% of the
>> conversation in this list is over my head :D
>>
>> Originally this iwebmsg power consumption was happening by means of null
>> senders sending messages to imailsrv which was generating tons of "illegal
>> list commands" in the log, I got around this by renaming imailsrv.exe to
>> something else which got the log files down to 4 or 5 mbs a day instead of
>> 70 or 80. We don't have any need for the imailsrv function, so I thought
>> what the heck... This lasted for a few weeks, but now it's happening
>again,
>> although not to the same extent. I was previously getting somewhere around
>> 170,000 of these a day. I'm seeing that a few of them are now starting to
>> send to listserv.
>>
>> The log files are now at around 7 or 8 mbs, I'm getting about 2000 of
>these
>> null senders a day now, which really shouldn't bother. I do have a number
>> of tmp files in the spool directory which I wasn't getting before I
>renamed
>> the imailsrv.exe, strangely these tmp files don't look as though they are
>> related to any attempt to send a message to imailsrv. Weird.
>> Another thing that is goofy is that I have a couple of users whose
>> attachments seem to stay in the spool directory for ever and ever, is that
>> normal for a user that pretty much exclusively uses the web mail function?
>> spool directory size is usually about 60 or 70 mbs, with about 100 or 150
>> files in it. I usually keep about a months worth of logs in the spool.
>>
>> any suggestions? i'm waiting to get a bunch of postmaster messages from
>> rfc-ignorant while i have things set this way.
>>
>> cheers
>> Royce
>>
>>
>>
>> At 10:11 PM 14/04/2004 -0400, you wrote:
>> >Hi Royce-
>> >
>> >How are you rejecting the messages? Do you use a nobody alias with an
>> >autoresponse, or do you just let Imail return the standard error message?
>> >Any idea how many you're getting?
>> >
>> >It seems odd that this would effect iwebmsg.  Look for another problem
>> >somewhere. How many files do you have in your spool directory?
>> >
>> >-Dave
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >----- Original Message ----- 
>> >From: "Royce Burnett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 3:43 PM
>> >Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] tricks for dealing with null senders?
>> >
>> >
>> >> Using Imail 6.05, and Declude 1.79 beta on NT4.0
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I've had a spate of crud flowing in the last week or so from
>> >> <>@variousaddresses addressed to
>> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED], which of course get
>> >turned
>> >> away as the addressee is unknown to my mail server. Unfortunately there
>> >> seems to be such a flood of the damned things that it ends up stalling
>the
>> >> iwebmsg service and consuming 100% cpu so a number of times a day I
>have
>> >to
>> >> shut the iwebmsg service down, which can take up to 20 minutes to
>> >accomplish.
>> >>
>> >> I've had to turn off accepting null senders just to grab my breath.
>Whats
>> >> the quick and dirty solution, some sort of hold action? is there a way
>to
>> >> configure a  declude test to action these messages?
>> >>
>> >> please forgive if this seems a stupid question, i'm pretty foggy after
>a 4
>> >> AM hard drive replacement on a different machine....
>> >>
>> >> Thanks for any answers
>> >>
>> >> Royce Burnett
>> >> CICI
>> >>
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