The site is finally non-responsive.

Kevin Bilbee

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rick Klinge
> Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 5:11 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] New Phishing Scam
>
>
> I thought about that earlier too.. But then I soon realized.. They are not
> that swift.
>
> ~Rick
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Schmidt
> Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 7:00 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] New Phishing Scam
>
>
> Of course - it could be that law enforcement asked them to
> MAINTAIN the site
> so that they can collect evidence.
>
>
> Best Regards
> Andy Schmidt
>
> Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
> Fax:    +1 201 934-9206
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox
> Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 01:04 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] New Phishing Scam
>
>
> Well...I called in to join the fight...but checked the site while I was on
> hold and it looks like they've finally taken it down...so I hung up.
>
> Darin.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Kevin Bilbee
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 12:56 PM
> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] New Phishing Scam
>
>
> I just got off the phone with them and they said their manager is
> working on
> it.
>
> How many people can we get to start calling in about 15 minutes?????
>
> So, Matt I see you have called multiple times. On my last call
> they asked if
> I was Matt or Kevin.
>
>
> Kevin
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kevin Bilbee
> Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 9:42 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] New Phishing Scam
>
>
> I am on the phione with them now. I suggest we all call and take up all of
> their tech supoport lines until the site is down. I have all day.
>
> I reported this to them 24hours a go then reported it to the list.
>
> >From my conversation last night with the SS Etask force if they were open
> they would be giving them a call also.
>
>
> Kevin Bilbee
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Matt
> Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 9:29 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] New Phishing Scam
>
>
> The damn site is still up...24 hours later and these people haven't pulled
> the site.  I just called their sales line and asked that they find someone
> at a higher level to direct this to.  It's beyond me how these people can
> pull up the address in a Web browser and still not get that there is a
> problem.
>
> And for the sake of Internet archiving, let me just state for the
> benefit of
> others, A+Net, a.k.a. Abacus America Inc of San Diego, CA, who's
> Web site is
> located at aplus.net, has shown themselves incapable of taking appropriate
> action on one of the most common Internet scams despite numerous reports
> over a 24 hour period.  One can only conclude that this is the
> typical level
> of response that they give to all support issues, and one should take note
> of this before considering their services.  Other companies,
> including ones
> as large and complex as Akamai, have resolved issues within
> minutes of being
> reported, as they clearly understood the immediacy of the issue at hand.
>
> Matt
>
>
>
> Kevin Bilbee wrote:
>
> Use matts 888-301-2516 number instead. Make them pay for the call I kept
> them on the phone for 30 minutes.
>
> Kevin Bilbee
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kevin Bilbee
> Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 12:17 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] New Phishing Scam
>
>
> Yes, I sent to abuse and support as per their tech support.
>
> I just got off the phone with them. They are still disinterested
> in shutting
> down the site.
>
>
> I have been doing some research on a place to report these issues and
> actualy have someone care. This is what I found
>
> Electronic Crimes Task Force
> http://www.ectaskforce.org/regional_locations.htm
>
>
> This is the Secret Service of the United States. I just spoke
> with them and
> they handle these issues. When calling just ask for the duty officer.
>
> Of course they will not be available for until Tuesday.
>
>
> So the more people we get to call
> OrgTechName:   A Net Support
> OrgTechPhone:  +1-858-410-6900
> OrgTechEmail:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> the quicker we can get the site shutdown.
>
>
> Kevin Bilbee
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rick Klinge
> Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 11:38 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] New Phishing Scam
>
>
> Pretty wild for sure.. Anyone send it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ?
>
> ~Rick
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt
> Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 1:09 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] New Phishing Scam
>
>
> I can't believe that this site hasn't been pulled yet.  I called
> the company
> just now and showed them the site.  Phone calls typically get a faster
> response.  We'll see.
>
> Matt
>
>
> Colbeck, Andrew wrote:
>
> Very convincing; in the HTML view of the message Kevin sent, you
> can see the
> IP address of the real destination, which is of course not PayPal.  The
> website there uses all of PayPal's actual images and HTTPS
>
> links and forms
>
> to provide the user experience.... except the sucker enters
>
> their username
>
> and password into a form on the bogus site, which then sends the data to
> PayPal.
>
> Andrew ;)
>
> p.s. When I discover these, I report them to [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> they want the
> message forwarded to them, not as an attachment.  So if you do
>
> that, make
>
> sure that you paste in the full headers.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kevin Bilbee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 2:55 PM
> To: JunkMail Declude
> Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] New Phishing Scam
>
>
> Here is a new phishing scam. I reported it to the hosting company and
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> The wesite is still live.
>
> Kevin Bilbee
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 2:38 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [ SPAM 9 ]Account verification.
>
>
> Dear PayPal user,
> As part of our continuing commitment to protect your account
> and to reduce the instance of fraud on our website, we are undertaking a
> period review of our member accounts.
> You are requested to visit our site by following the link given below.
> http://www.paypal.com/verification/%?6488820019=20
> Please fill in the required information. This is required for us
> to continue
> to offer
> you a safe and risk free environment to send and receive money online,
> and maintain the PayPal Experience.
> Thank you.
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> periodically
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