Hi,

If it's a zombie that's not listed anywhere, yet - then it may not matter
much, if the weight is -3 or 0.  

Also, the "zombie" will only benefit from SPF, if they take the time and are
able to figure out which domain's SPF TXT record happens to cover that
particular zombie IP.  Just using any old domain name with an IP will not
get credit, because SPF will not match.

Best Regards
Andy 


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 12:13 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] AOL on SPAMCOP


But what happens when it's not listed in SpamCop and some zombie sends 
out spam through it?

It fixes one problem, but creates another.  I currently see more spam 
coming from ISP mail servers than I see false positives, but of course 
that's just my setup.  Having SpamCop FP on such a mail server though 
causes me great pause.

Matt



Andy Schmidt wrote:

>Hi,
>
>Well, I simply use SPF PASS to assign a negative weight.  Since AOL 
>implemented SPF, that automatically reduces any "SpamCop" effect to a 
>tolerable level, e.g.,
>
>The following email had a weight of -13.  Even if it was listed by 
>SPAMCOP it would have been less than 0.
>
>       X-Declude: Triggered AHBLEXEMPT, SPFPASS [-13]
>
>Received: from imo-d04.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.36] by hm-software.com 
>with ESMTP
>  (SMTPD32-7.07) id AF6F1966002E; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 17:27:59 -0500
>Received: from [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>       by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r4.8.) id 5.10.3a7e0015 (30960)
>        for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 17:27:52 -0500 (EST)
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 17:27:52 EST
>Subject: (no subject)
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>MIME-Version: 1.0
>Content-Type: multipart/alternative; 
>boundary="-----------------------------1073946471"
>X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5100
>X-Declude: Version 1.77i8; D1f6f1966002e6052.SMD from 
>imo-d04.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.36]
>X-Declude: Triggered AHBLEXEMPT, SPFPASS [-13]
>X-Countries: UNITED STATES->destination
>Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>X-Declude-Date: 01/12/2004 22:27:52 [0]
>X-RCPT-TO: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Status: U
>X-UIDL: 353600159
>
>
>
>Best Regards
>Andy Schmidt
>
>H&M Systems Software, Inc.
>600 East Crescent Avenue, Suite 203
>Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846
>
>Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
>Fax:    +1 201 934-9206
>
>http://www.HM-Software.com/
>
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