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From: "Sanford Whiteman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> All,
>
> I  have  seen,  twice  in  the  past week for two different users at a
> single  client,  messages  locked (_~) in the spool that do not appear
> anywhere  in  the  Declude  log--and,  of  course, do not go out. Both
> messages  had  20<n<50 recipients and were <1K in size. No other users
> reported any issues in this period of time.
>
> Anybody  seen  anything  similar?  This is not what I would consider a
> queue  backup issue, since mail processes "around" these messages just
> fine,  including  mail  from  the  same  senders. All outgoing mail is
> gatewayed  and  entire  queue  cycle is basically instantaneous. These
> same messages are processed by the QM without error once renamed.
>
> Declude 1.70, IMail 8.04.

Sandy, could this be related to one of the issue IPSwitch resolved with the
8.05 patch:

o Queuemgr: Decreased the possibility that during a queue run the
queuemgr might process files before a third party process
locks the message.

Several of us on this list were experiencing issues like this where IMail
would deliver a message before Declude could process it, and were seeing
file locking issues being reported in our JunkMail and Virus logs.  Sounds
like this is also possibly some kind of file contention issue that could be
resolved by upgrading to 8.05.  I don't think anyone has reported any issues
since upgrading IMail to this latest patch release.

Bill

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