BTW, I forwarded this issue to a colleague, Sue Moser of Slipstick Systems http://www.slipstick.com and Windows magazine contributor.
Mark > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R. > Scott Perry > Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 2:19 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] A little CMA documentation > for Outlook 2003 RFC non-compliance 2003 RFC non-compliance > > > >I have a customer who was having trouble with his messages sent to > >users on servers that use spam filters not being delivered. > I had him > >send a message to me so I could see what tests it fails. As some of > >you may have already guessed, he's got a new pc with Outlook > 2003 and > >the messages fail the spam headers test. I informed him that among > >mail server and/or spamfilter administrators this is a known issue. > >So, he calls MS. MS says it's OEM software, call the > vendor. Dell says I'm full of it. > > > >So... > > > >Would someone with more thorough and better understanding than mine > >please send me something (with permission to quote or I'd just lift > >from > >archives) that I can send to this customer? I'm looking for > what it is > >that Outlook 2003 does wrong and what RFC it is not > conforming to. He > >wants to then show it to Dell and request an exchange for > Office 2002. > > It's really a Microsoft issue (it's a bug -- er, "new > feature" -- in Outlook 2003), but they may have a special > arrangement with Dell. Microsoft had a few complaints from > people using Outlook that their machine name was "leaked" in > the Message-ID header. Instead of ignoring the complaint, or > making the host name used in the Message-ID: header > configurable, they chose to remove the Message-ID: header. > > Microsoft is technically RFC-compliant, *if* they understand > the consequences of what they did. In order words, it is > only RFC-compliant if accept the fact that the E-mail sent > from Outlook 2003 may be marked as spam. > > Microsoft's position, from what we understand, is that they > expect all mailservers to whitelist outgoing E-mail from > Outlook 2003 users, and add the Message-ID: header. > > -Scott > --- > Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail > mailservers. > Declude Virus: Catches known viruses and is the leader in > mailserver vulnerability detection. > Find out what you've been missing: Ask about our free 30-day > evaluation. > > --- > [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus > (http://www.declude.com)] > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be > found at http://www.mail-archive.com. > --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
