> We have a list of any free domains that we have received mail 
> from.  The free sites we add 5 to start with. [I can send you 
> the list if you want]

Can you send those to me?

Thanks!

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Kami Razvan
> Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 11:48 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail, Yahoo, MSN, etc...
> 
> 
> What we have done is weigh negatively the sum of those tests 
> for these two domains (Yahoo, Hotmail).
> 
> We have a list of any free domains that we have received mail 
> from.  The free sites we add 5 to start with. [I can send you 
> the list if you want]
> 
> The Hotmail and Yahoo spam are typically caught by a lot of 
> other tests such as body filters.  Basically we have created 
> a filter for all the URL's that are used in the spam and 
> weigh them if they occur.  Combination of these has reduced 
> the spam to almost 1 or 2 a week (even if that).  We do not 
> use Sniffer.. So far have not found any need for it since we 
> have an extensive filter file for URL addresses that appear 
> in spam. (I can have it sent to you if you want).
> 
> For Base64 tests we have basically made the weight enough 
> such that if any other tests are failed, or if it is coming 
> from any free email address then it will be held for review.
> 
> Regards,
> Kami
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mark Smith
> Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 11:32 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail, Yahoo, MSN, etc...
> 
> 
> What is everyone doing about Hotmail, Yahoo, Juno and other 
> web-based mail systems? It's really a catch-22. Hotmail is so 
> frequently listed on RBL's and is a large source of spam but 
> it's also a large source of legitimate email.
> 
> They all seem to fail postmaster and abuse so they're already 
> at 6-8 points on most peoples Junkmail. You can't whitelist 
> them, and the RBL's usually send them over the edge.
> 
> I use Sniffer so I've thought about adding a rule for 
> hotmail, yahoo, etc to subtract the sum of postmaster and 
> abuse and let message sniffer do some magic on these sites.
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
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