Hi,

Is anyone familiar with using Thunar to access Windows shares or Samba
shares? I have found that after installing Debian Bookworm with XFCE,
that Thunar is 1) not able to display Windows shares or Samba shares,
2) not able to connect to connect to Windows shares or Samba shares.


Can someone guide me how get a file manager like Thunar to display and
access Windows shares or Samba shares?


In Debian Bookworm installations, why is gvfs-backends and gvfs-fuse
not installed by default when installing Debian with XFCE? 



https://wiki.debian.org/DebianDesktopHowTo
Xfce

For network browsing in the thunar file manager, install gvfs-backends
and gvfs-fuse, and add your users to the "fuse" group (sudo adduser 
fuse).
Thunar is missing a plugin to create network shares (bug 672539).
Workaround: define custom actions (adjust the permissions (setguid)
according to the samba section above).


What is the issue of not having these two packages installed?


The most obvious issue I observe is that Thunar is 1) not able to
display Windows shares or Samba shares, 2) not able to connect to
connect to Windows shares or Samba shares.


I can do install gvfs-backends and gvfs-fuse.
# apt install gvfs-backends gvfs-fuse


But when try to add my userid to the fuse group, I discover that the
fuse group does not exist, why is this?  I have read on the Internet
that with Bookworm there is no need to add the userid to the fuse
group, but the instructions on the DesktopHowTo, does recommend this
step.

# adduser  fuse
adduser: The group `fuse' does not exist.


I think I found the "fuse" package was not installed. Should I install
the fuse package?
# apt install fuse3


Even after installing the fuse package, there is no group in
/etc/group called "fuse".
# grep fuse /etc/group


I then created the fuse group and added my userid to the fuse group.
Is this correct?  Is doing this a problem? Does creating the fuse
group and adding the userid to the group actually help?

# groupadd fuse
# adduser  fuse


I read the statement "Thunar is missing a plugin to create network
shares". And checking the bug report it seems this bug was reported in
"Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 21:12:03 UTC". Will this bug be fixed? 
resolved? There is a comment "If you are still interested in packaging
thunar-shares-plugin, please..." from 2015.


I could not find a package called thunar-shares-plugin in Synaptic, so
I guess this plug in, if it still exists, was never packaged?


With the popularity of XFCE, I would have expected that "network
browsing in the thunar file manager" would be fully supported by
default by now. Is there a reason it is not?


Is it possible to get Thunar to find SAMBA shares in "Network ->
Windows Network" ?  If so, How?



Apologies for my confusion on this matter,


George.

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