On Tue, May 30, 2006 at 08:32:32AM +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote: > On Tue, 2006-05-30 at 01:57 +0200, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: > > On Mon, May 29, 2006 at 09:53:39AM +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote: > > > > > Does any of the following make a difference? > > > > > > * Commenting out Option "AGPMode", "EnablePageFlip" or > > > "BackingStore". > > > * Not loading the "ddc", "int10", "vbe" and "v4l" modules in > > > Section "Module". > > > > After commenting *everything* you mentioned above and enabling the > > DRI load, a '/etc/init.d/kdm start' crashes the system: > > Hmm, then it's not likely a configuration issue. Would be great if you > could try with the DRM from DRI CVS, see > > http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/Building#head-59338b545aa94fe7570b689a9f9f850f53f732ca > http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/Building#head-d3dcc7d83ae38d3b36f7f23ddcd4f5268396b2b4 > > > > BTW: Is it possible to ssh into such a crashed system/machine and shut > > it down cleanly instead of stupidly pressing the power button I was > > doing so far after these crashes? > > Depends how hard the crash is. Would be interesting to know at any rate. > [ ... ]
It's possible :) But first this: I learned SSH the last days (I really didn't know anything about it before, except that it *somehow* might provide a way to access one computer with another one), that's why I'm a bit late to continue this thread. So thanks for being patient until now. Most of the following from my lousy memory: I provoked one of these ugly crashes on the alu-book, where I re-enabled dri via xorg.conf again, without having installed the new DRM you, Michel, were recommending: I logged into the crashed system on the alu-book from an older Ti-IV Powerbook via ssh (I think I did before the system crashed), su-ed to root after some time , watched the processes via top, and saw xorg taking around 99% CPU at the time of the crash. I could not even stop xorg via a 'kill -s 9 <xorg-PID>' /etc/init.d/xserver-xorg stop /etc/init.d/x11-common stop didn't help either. At another instance of a crash like that, on the alu-book screen after some time some sort of garbled non-console screen was showing up. I would not even call it a garbled KDE login screen .. Difficult to define ... At the time of the crash: ________________________ # tail -f /var/log/kern.log Jun 4 15:27:29 debby1-6 kernel: [ 329.913335] radeonfb: Idle Timeout ! Jun 4 15:27:29 debby1-6 kernel: [ 332.322620] radeonfb: Idle Timeout ! Jun 4 15:27:34 debby1-6 kernel: [ 334.863572] radeonfb: Idle Timeout ! Jun 4 15:27:34 debby1-6 kernel: [ 337.273485] radeonfb: Idle Timeout ! Jun 4 15:27:39 debby1-6 kernel: [ 339.784720] radeonfb: Idle Timeout ! Jun 4 15:27:39 debby1-6 kernel: [ 342.194073] radeonfb: Idle Timeout ! Jun 4 15:27:44 debby1-6 kernel: [ 344.717566] radeonfb: Idle Timeout ! Jun 4 15:27:44 debby1-6 kernel: [ 347.128199] radeonfb: Idle Timeout ! Jun 4 15:27:49 debby1-6 kernel: [ 349.648255] radeonfb: Idle Timeout ! Jun 4 15:27:49 debby1-6 kernel: [ 352.057512] radeonfb: Idle Timeout ! ____________________________ ------------------------------- # ps ax | grep kdm 2986 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/bin/kdm 3058 pts/0 S+ 0:00 grep kdm --------------------------- I did a 'kill -s 9 2986', after that kdm was gone, but 'top' still showed 'Xorg' swallowing ~99% CPU. '/etc/init.d/x11-common status' gave me zero output, ditto a '/etc/init.d/xserver-xorg status' Perhaps not being so important, but anyway: Could someone tell me what exactly 'top' means by 'Xorg'? Because if there are other, so far unknown instances of the xorg-server I should know about, I'd like to try close them down instead of shutting down the whole system. As one might guess from the latter, this here worked :) : ------------------------- # shutdown -r now Broadcast message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] (pts/0) (Sun Jun 4 14:21:56 2006): The system is going down for reboot NOW! [ ... ] ------------------------- ... and the crashed machine was rebooted .. :) Michel: Do you want to do me more tests on this alu-book around the time it crashes, before I try to install the DRM you suggested to try? I'll wait until tomorrow (Monday) afternoon with the DRM install/tests. And no problem if you want some more time than until tomorrow: After all it's week-end .. Just let me know in time, please .. Thanks in anticipation Best Regards Wolfgang -- Wolfgang Pfeiffer: /ICQ: 286585973/ + + + /AIM: crashinglinux/ http://profiles.yahoo.com/wolfgangpfeiffer Key ID: E3037113 http://keyserver.mine.nu/pks/lookup?search=0xE3037113&fingerprint=on -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]