On Tue, Jul 19, 2005 at 06:09:36PM -0400, Thomas Dickey wrote: > Looking for a different way of seeing things, I find that xfd can display > TrueType fonts (in a limited way - no size changes). If I run > > xfd -fa Terminus
Oh yes. Running xfd in en_US.UTF-8 locale, I indeed get only one glyph page. And running in in uk_UA.UTF-8, I get multiple pages, with most of required Cyrillic in code points starting from 0x400. > It shows me a single page (0 to 255). Doing > > xfd -fa FreeMono > > shows several pages, populated with glyphs. Looking for the files that > represent xfonts-terminus, I see only some bitmap fonts. Yes, Terminus is bitmapped. But on my system it is managed through FontConfig and displayed in fc-list as well. As to FreeMono, in en_US.UTF-8 xfd catches 'Bitstream Vera Sans Mono' that does not have Cyrillic page; and in uk_UA.UTF-8 - 'Andale Mono' (Microsoft TTF) that does have it. > However, as you report, I can tell gvim to load "Terminus" font and display > the date in uk_UA.UTF-8 locale. Yes, gvim and Mozilla were rock-solid as to i18n, since long. > Here is another clue: I can see by the access times which font is actually > being loaded. For whatever reason, both xterm and xfd are causing Xft > to load the 8859-1 version of the font rather than the unicode version. Yes, indeed something may happen due to Xft/FontConfig. But why should it limit code points in such way ? To bring more hell to mixed-language users ? :> Anyway, gvim and Mozilla managed to overcome that in some way... > Here's a cut-paste from my directory editor showing the access times: > > crayon:/ 4 of 191 > [atime] > 96 Tue 18:00:06 etc/fonts/conf.d/ > 54 Tue 18:00:06 etc/fonts/conf.d/50-enable-terminus.conf > 02 Tue 18:00:06 usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/ter-u12n_iso-8859-1.pcf.gz > 25 Tue 17:58:35 usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/ter-u14b_iso-8859-1.pcf.gz > 32 Tue 17:58:35 usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/ter-u14n_iso-8859-1.pcf.gz > 70 Tue 17:58:09 usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/ter-u16b_unicode.pcf.gz > 97 Tue 17:58:08 usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/ter-u16n_unicode.pcf.gz > 25 Tue 17:52:50 usr/share/doc/xfonts-terminus/README.Debian > 51 Tue 17:52:20 etc/X11/fonts/misc/xfonts-terminus.alias > > The "u12n" is loaded by xfd (running in uk_UA.UTF-8 locale). > The "u14b" files were loaded by "uxterm -fa Terminus" > The "u16n" files were loaded by gvim (running in uk_UA.UTF-8 locale). > > The 8859-1 fonts of course are 8-bit, and the codes that you are attempting > to display are not. I checked this too. I use strace rather that ls/find/etc options. Lots of useful can be dug out of strace logs. > So it does not appear to be a problem with the font-files themselves, > but perhaps the font server (perhaps requiring some new or modified > information). I see that /usr/bin/X11/xfs is dated June 1. I don't use xfs. I use client-side FontConfig and server-side FontPath for 'classic' applications. Btw, I used XLFDs in app-defaults/XTerm and they worked for me until some upgrade (don't remember exactly, either xterm from 4.3.0 to 6.8.2, or between some 6.8.2s), when 'the hell' returned again :> XTerm: *VT100.utf8Fonts.font2: -*-terminus-medium-*-*--14-*-*-*-*-*-iso10646-* *VT100.utf8Fonts.font: -*-terminus-medium-*-*--16-*-*-*-*-*-iso10646-* *VT100.utf8Fonts.font3: -*-terminus-medium-*-*--17-*-*-*-*-*-iso10646-* *VT100.utf8Fonts.font4: -*-terminus-medium-*-*--20-*-*-*-*-*-iso10646-* *VT100.utf8Fonts.font5: -*-terminus-medium-*-*--24-*-*-*-*-*-iso10646-* *VT100.utf8Fonts.font6: -*-terminus-medium-*-*--28-*-*-*-*-*-iso10646-* *VT100*font2: -*-terminus-medium-*-*--14-*-*-*-*-*-iso10646-* *VT100*font: -*-terminus-medium-*-*--16-*-*-*-*-*-iso10646-* *VT100*font3: -*-terminus-medium-*-*--17-*-*-*-*-*-iso10646-* *VT100*font4: -*-terminus-medium-*-*--20-*-*-*-*-*-iso10646-* *VT100*font5: -*-terminus-medium-*-*--24-*-*-*-*-*-iso10646-* *VT100*font6: -*-terminus-medium-*-*--28-*-*-*-*-*-iso10646-* UXTerm: *VT100*font2: -*-terminus-medium-*-*--14-*-*-*-*-*-iso10646-* *VT100*font: -*-terminus-medium-*-*--16-*-*-*-*-*-iso10646-* *VT100*font3: -*-terminus-medium-*-*--17-*-*-*-*-*-iso10646-* *VT100*font4: -*-terminus-medium-*-*--20-*-*-*-*-*-iso10646-* *VT100*font5: -*-terminus-medium-*-*--24-*-*-*-*-*-iso10646-* *VT100*font6: -*-terminus-medium-*-*--28-*-*-*-*-*-iso10646-* After one upgrade, I have found that my xterm started to display 'fixed' font. It started to skip these 'terminus' XLFDs in some way. Then I did some juggling (copied XLFDs from XTerm to UXTerm ot vice versa, don't remember exactly), and Terminus returned back. But then it had bad boldification (artificial one, through overstrike). Then I thrown '*faceName: Terminus' in, which brought the proper boldification, but with bundled localization hell as well :> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]