Hi Branden Thanks for your mail.
The most important first: The can't-logout-if-xterm-is-running problem is probably some Gnome problem: I just stopped gdm/Gnome, started fvwm instead of Gnome with 'startx' from a console, opened an xterm, Eterm and an xterm (Unicode) there, and then logged out without any problem from fvwm/X. No delays any more when trying to log out. No problems on FVWM in that respect. On the situation on Gnome (49), on Debian/unstable: In the meantime when I try to log out from a Gnome session via the "Log Out" button from the gnome menu, with xterms open, it takes about 3 or 4 minutes until logout. I don't have to do anything for this logout to happen: No hovering over the xterms is necessary to make them disappear. All I have to do is sit and wait for about 3 or 4 minutes in front of an X session after clicking the logout button until I get logged out from this Gnome X. But I still can get the Gnome logout faster if I hover the mouse over the xterms -- it seems this is still what I wrote about in one of my previous mails on the subject. Second: In the meantime 'man xterm' starts the correct man page on Gnome and fvwm. IIRC I aleady realised that some time ago after my last bugreport to <http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=233883> Branden, provided my guess is right and this logout issue is a Gnome one: what's the correct way to proceed now? Forward this mail to Gnome bug reports? If you think this makes sense you can forward this mail to the Gnome bug reports page. Just Cc me please, if possible. Thanks for your time. And Sorry for realising the FVWM trick a bit late: I already had the idea some time ago, but simply forgot about it. Best Regards Wolfgang On Tue, 2004-04-06 at 11:07, Branden Robinson wrote: > tag 233883 + help > retitle 233883 xterm: xterm windows prevent logout on GNOME 2.4.1 > thanks > > On Sun, Mar 07, 2004 at 04:18:04PM +0100, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: > > On Mon, 2004-02-23 at 17:17, Branden Robinson wrote: > > > You might be experiencing the following bug, already filed: > > > > > > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=204249 > > > > It didn't help me. > > > > Today I got a new xterm version, man-db: no changes: > > > > xterm still prevents logging out as described earlier, 'man xterm' still > > starts "man uxterm" > > > > COLUMNS=152 dpkg -l | egrep "(xterm|man-db)" > > ii man-db 2.4.2-12 The > > on-line manual pager > > Well, that's not a new enough version. > > man-db (2.4.2-13) unstable; urgency=medium > > * When sorting located man pages for display, sort by pure section, then > id (real page, symlink, whatis reference, etc.), then extended section, > rather than the previous ordering of extended section then id. This > works around the worst effects of #204249, in which changing a > cross-hierarchy man page alternative can cause man to get the display > order wrong. > > -- Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mon, 8 Mar 2004 00:23:21 +0000 > > I don't think the manpage problem has anything to do with the > can't-logout problem. > > In any case, I'm stumped on the latter. Tagging the bug accordingly. -- Profile, Links: http://profiles.yahoo.com/wolfgangpfeiffer