it is attached.

since last tiem, i upgraded to experimental, downgraded to 4.2.1-11, purged 
xfree86 (which removed
also kde and gnome) using apt-get remove --purge, and reinstalled 4.2.1-11 . 
but somehow purging
does not seem to really throw everything away? the XF86Config-4 stayed the 
same, even if i had to
confirm autodect information ( used read-edid, mdetect and discover, as you 
suggested).

so for me there are the following questions remaining:

1. display managers do not work any more:

   there following is working:
   xstart:
   - starts kde
   gdm/stable, can start:
   - kde: everything works
   - Xsession: everything works, if twm is installed
   - failsave xterm: comes up with a xterm, without a window manager
   
   not working:
   xdm starting kde
      after login a black screen comes, then you are back at login
   kdm starting kde/gnome
      after login a black screen comes, then you are back at login
   gdm starting gnome
      just a try to display the splash screen, then it is gone.
      no error messages in gdm.log, and i have no idea whereelse
      they could be.


   xdm.log is attached, the error seems to be (same error as kdm):
   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/Xsession: fold: command not found 

   # which fold
   /usr/bin/fold

   i'm using /etc/environment for setting the path, according to:
   http://www.astro.unibas.ch/~loeffler/thinkpad/p5-manualconf.xhtml#environment

   there is /etc/X11/Xsession.d/10-source-environment, which sources
   /etc/environment. there /usr/bin is in the path. it worked a month ago.

   i don't have .Xsession files.

2. why i cannot use the "alt gr" key in kde, xterm, somehow it 
   seems to do the same as "alt". xev says "alt_r". i don't
   know if menu-key and windows keys work.

   on console everything works fine.

   in Xfree.log is:
   (**) |-->Input Device "Keyboard0"
   (**) Option "XkbRules" "xfree86"
   (**) XKB: rules: "xfree86"
   (**) Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
   (**) XKB: model: "pc105"
   (**) Option "XkbLayout" "de"
   (**) XKB: layout: "de"
   (**) Option "XkbVariant" "CH"
   (**) XKB: variant: "CH"
   (==) Keyboard: CustomKeycode disabled


   startup is done with gdm/stable, in gdm.log is:

   The XKEYBOARD keymap compiler (xkbcomp) reports:
   > Error:            No Symbols named "CH" in the include file "de"
   >                   Exiting
   >                   Abandoning symbols file "default" 



3. gaim does not work any more, complains with

   $ gaim
   No fonts found; this probably means that the fontconfig
   library is not correctly configured. You may need to
   edit the fonts.conf configuration file. More information 
   about fontconfig can be found in the fontconfig(3) manual  
   page and on http://fontconfig.org

   this is the version which worked a month ago.

4. kde kcontrol: you can set the fonts once, the next time you start
   they are gone.
   but i suppose this is a kde/qt problem. it worked also a month
   ago, but i can't remember if kde also got updated.


a very nice thing would be, if the logmessage of the xkbcomp could be a bit 
more useful in future,
so you know what it executes (this one today is ok, but the last one was not 
very helpful).






--- Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 28 2003 at 02:59:04PM -0700, solo turn wrote:
> > i get "Couldn't load XKB keymap, falling back to pre-XKB keymap". the error 
> > does not tell,
> which
> > one it tries to load.
> > i use 4.2.1-9, 4.2.1-10.
> 
> You may be feeding the X server a bad combination of XKB configuration
> parameters.
> 
> Can we see your /etc/X11/XF86Config-4, please?
> 
> Mail it to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.
> 
> -- 
> G. Branden Robinson                |    Somebody once asked me if I thought
> Debian GNU/Linux                   |    sex was dirty.  I said, "It is if
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]                 |    you're doing it right."
> http://people.debian.org/~branden/ |    -- Woody Allen
> 

> ATTACHMENT part 2 application/pgp-signature 


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Attachment: xdm.log
Description: xdm.log

Section "ServerLayout"
        Identifier     "XFree86 Configured"
        Screen      0  "Screen0" 0 0
        InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
        InputDevice    "PS/2 Mouse" "CorePointer"
# Serial Mouse not detected
# USB Mouse not detected
EndSection

Section "ServerFlags"
        Option "AllowMouseOpenFail"  "true"
        
EndSection

Section "Files"
#       RgbPath      "/etc/X11/rgb.txt"
        ModulePath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules"
#       FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled"
        FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc"
#       FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled"
        FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi"
#       FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled"
        FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi"
        FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo"
#       FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/PEX"
# Additional fonts: Locale, Gimp, TTF...
#       FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic"
#       FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/latin2/75dpi"
#       FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/latin2/100dpi"
# True type and type1 fonts are also handled via xftlib, see /etc/X11/XftConfig!
        FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1"
#       FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/ttf/western"
#       FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/ttf/decoratives"
#       FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/truetype/openoffice"
#       FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/defoma/CID"
#       FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/defoma/TrueType"
        FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/TrueType
EndSection

Section "Module"
        Load  "ddc"  # ddc probing of monitor
        Load  "GLcore"
        Load  "dbe"
        Load  "dri"
        Load  "extmod"
        Load  "glx"
        Load  "bitmap" # bitmap-fonts
        Load  "speedo"
        Load  "type1"
        Load  "freetype"
        Load  "record"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
        Identifier  "Keyboard0"
        Driver      "keyboard"
        Option      "CoreKeyboard"
        Option "XkbRules" "xfree86"
        Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
        Option "XkbLayout" "de"
        Option "XkbVariant" "CH"

EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
        Identifier  "PS/2 Mouse"
        Driver      "mouse"
        Option      "Protocol"          "ImPS/2"
        #Option      "Device"           "/dev/psaux"
        Option      "Device"            "/dev/gpmdata"
        Option      "ZAxisMapping"      "4 5"
        Option      "Buttons"           "5"
        #Option      "Emulate3Buttons"  "true"
        #Option      "Emulate3Timeout"  "70"
        Option      "SendCoreEvents"    "true"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
        Identifier      "USB Mouse"
        Driver          "mouse"
        Option          "Device"                "/dev/input/mice"
        Option          "SendCoreEvents"        "true"
        Option          "Protocol"              "IMPS/2"
        Option          "ZAxisMapping"          "4 5"
        Option          "Buttons"               "5"
EndSection

# Auto-generated by KNOPPIX mkxf86config

Section "Monitor"
        Identifier      "Monitor0"
        Option  "DPMS"  "true"
        VendorName      "AMT"
        ModelName       "AMT0119"
        HorizSync 30 - 82 # DDC-probed
        VertRefresh 50 - 75 # DDC-probed
        # These are the DDC-probed settings reported by your monitor.
        # 1280x1024, 75.0Hz; hfreq=79.98, vfreq=75.03
        ModeLine "1280x1024"    135.00 1280 1296 1440 1688 1024 1025 1028 1066 
+hsync +vsync
        # 1280x1024, 75.0Hz; hfreq=79.98, vfreq=75.03
        ModeLine "1280x1024"    135.00 1280 1296 1440 1688 1024 1025 1028 1066 
+hsync +vsync
        # 1024x768, 75.0Hz; hfreq=60.02, vfreq=75.03
        ModeLine "1024x768"      78.75 1024 1040 1136 1312  768  769  772  800 
+hsync +vsync
        # 800x600, 75.0Hz; hfreq=46.88, vfreq=75.00
        ModeLine "800x600"       49.50  800  816  896 1056  600  601  604  625 
+hsync +vsync
        # 800x600, 60.0Hz; hfreq=37.88, vfreq=60.32
        ModeLine "800x600"       40.00  800  840  968 1056  600  601  605  628 
+hsync +vsync
        # 640x480, 75.0Hz; hfreq=37.50, vfreq=75.00
        ModeLine "640x480"       31.50  640  656  720  840  480  481  484  500 
-hsync -vsync
        # 640x480, 60.0Hz; hfreq=31.47, vfreq=59.94
        ModeLine "640x480"       25.17  640  648  744  784  480  482  484  509 
-hsync -vsync
EndSection

Section "Device"
        ### Available Driver options are:-
# sw_cursor is needed for some ati and radeon cards
        #Option     "sw_cursor"
        #Option     "hw_cursor"
        #Option     "NoAccel"
        #Option     "ShowCache"
        #Option     "ShadowFB"
        #Option     "UseFBDev"
        #Option     "Rotate"
        Identifier  "Card0"
# The following line is auto-generated by KNOPPIX mkxf86config
        Driver      "vesa"
        VendorName  "All"
        BoardName   "All"
#       BusID       "PCI:1:0:0"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
        Identifier "Screen0"
        Device     "Card0"
        Monitor    "Monitor0"
        DefaultColorDepth 24
        SubSection "Display"
                Depth     1
                Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
        EndSubSection
        SubSection "Display"
                Depth     4
                Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
        EndSubSection
        SubSection "Display"
                Depth     8
                Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
        EndSubSection
        SubSection "Display"
                Depth     15
                Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768"
        EndSubSection
        SubSection "Display"
                Depth     16
                Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768"
        EndSubSection
        SubSection "Display"
                Depth     24
                Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600"
        EndSubSection
        SubSection "Display"
                Depth     32
                Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600"
        EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "DRI"
        Mode 0666
EndSection

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