Hi again,
I did not got any response so far for my contacting mail. I know we are
all volunteers and our time is limited. For sure there is also no need
for you to answer. I just wanted to know whether you see some chance I
could do anything for you to tackle problems you might probably see way
better than I.
In the Bug of the Day[1a] I stumbled today about a package that is
maintained by your team[2a] and learned that the workflow / policy
inside xorg-team diverges from other teams I know. Assuming you want
to attract new contributors I'd suggest to try hard to make people
as comfortable as possible with your workflow. Did you discussed your
policy recently to see whether it is meeting todays needs?
Kind regards and just keep on with your important work
Andreas.
[1a] https://salsa.debian.org/tille/tiny_qa_tools/-/wikis/Tiny-QA-tasks
[2a] https://lists.debian.org/debian-x/2024/08/msg00103.html
Am Thu, Jul 04, 2024 at 10:33:57PM +0200 schrieb Andreas Tille:
> Hi,
>
> as your Debian Project Leader I'd like to officially contact all our
> teams to learn about potential issues that might affect your work. I
> would love to learn how you organise / share your workload. If you do
> some regular meetings - be it on IRC, video conference or whatever I'm
> interested in joining one of your next meetings.
>
> Like previous DPLs, I'm open to any inquiries or requests for
> assistance. I personally prefer public discussion whenever possible, as
> they can benefit a wider audience. You can find a list of contact
> options at the bottom of my page on people.d.o[1].
>
> I prefer being offline when I'm away from my keyboard, so I don't carry
> a phone. In urgent situations, I can provide the number of my dumb
> phone, though it may not always be within reach. Feel free to ping me
> via email if I don't respond promptly to ensure I address your concerns.
>
> Please let me know whether I can do something for you. I'm fine joining
> your IRC channel if needed but please invite me in case I should be
> informed about some urgent discussion there since I normally do not lurk
> on this channel.
>
> I'd also like to inform you that I've registered a BoF for DebConf24 in
> Busan with the following description:
>
> This BoF is an attempt to gather as much as possible teams inside
> Debian to exchange experiences, discuss workflows inside teams, share
> their ways to attract newcomers etc.
>
> Each participant team should prepare a short description of their work
> and what team roles (“openings”) they have for new contributors. Even
> for delegated teams (membership is less fluid), it would be good to
> present the team, explain what it takes to be a team member, and what
> steps people usually go to end up being invited to participate. Some
> other teams can easily absorb contributions from salsa MRs, and at some
> point people get commit access. Anyway, the point is that we work on the
> idea that the pathway to become a team member becomes more clear from an
> outsider point-of-view.
>
> I'm sure not everybody will be able to travel this distance but it would
> be great if you would at least consider joining that BoF remotely. I'll
> care for a somehow TimeZone aware scheduling - if needed we'll organise
> two BoFs to match all time zones. I'm also aware that we have pretty
> different teams and it might make sense to do some infrastructure
> related BoF with your team and other teams that are caring for Debian
> infrastructure.
>
> I have some specific questions to the X Strike Force team.
>
> - Do you feel good when doing your work in X Strike Force team?
> - Do you consider the workload of your team equally shared amongst its
> members?
> - Do you have some strategy to gather new contributors for your team?
> - Can you give some individual estimation how many hours per week you
> are working on your tasks in youre team? Does this fit the amount of
> time you can really afford for this task?
> - Otto Kekäläinen has done some investigation about popular packages not
> yet on Salsa at all via
>
> curl -s -LO https://trends.debian.net/vcs-hosting_unstable-packages.csv
> curl -s -LO https://popcon.debian.org/sourcemax/by_inst
> for x in $(tail -n +13 by_inst | head -n 100 | cut -c 7-25)
> do
> grep -E "^$x," vcs-hosting_unstable-packages.csv
> done | grep -v salsa | grep libxdmcp
>
> (Last grep was added by me to point to the actual problem I want to
> talk about here.)
> Looking at tracker[2] and BTS[3] I see a package that was not uploaded
> for more than seven years, lagging behind upstream with some bugs that are
> pretty easy to fix. So I think its not actively maintained but has quite
> some high popcon value [4].
> I wonder whether this might be a singular case for a package which for
> whatever reason slipped through or whether there are chances that other
> packages maintained by your team might somehow be forgotten to migrate
> from
> Alioth.
> Do you plan to work on this and possibly other packages in the near
> future?
> - Can I do anything for you?
>
>
> Kind regards and thanks a lot for your work
> Andreas.
>
> [1] https://people.debian.org/~tille/
> [2] https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/libxdmcp
> [3] https://bugs.debian.org/src:libxdmcp
> [4] https://qa.debian.org/popcon-graph.php?packages=libxdmcp6
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