On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 03:36:42PM +0100, Julien Cristau wrote: > On 11/28/2016 09:22 PM, Ricardo Fabian Peliquero wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 05:26:42PM +0100, Julien Cristau wrote: > >> On 11/28/2016 03:54 PM, Ricardo Fabian Peliquero wrote: > >>> Last year I suggested adding libpam-systemd as a Recommends in > >>> xserver-xorg-core or xinit. That suggestion was applied at that time. > >>> > >>> The problem is also solved by installing xserver-xorg-legacy and e.g. > >>> configuring /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config like it is shown below for a radeon > >>> card. Please, consider adding this package to the Recommends as an > >>> alternative to libpam-systemd. > >>> > >>> ; cat /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config > >>> needs_root_rights = yes > >>> > >>> My suggestion would be xserver-xorg-core Recommends: libpam-systemd | > >>> xserver-xorg-legacy. > >>> > >> Nope, we shouldn't be recommending people use the setuid root wrapper, IMO. > >> > > > > I understand (and agree). What about changing libpam-systemd to Suggests > > rather than Recommends? > > > What exactly are you trying to achieve with a change here? > > Cheers, > Julien
It is just a matter of preference. I am trying to maintain a clean minimal environment on this old laptop, while trying to keep all Recommends installed. In aptitude's Recommendation audit, the only packages that I choose not to install are: libpam-systemd (which depends on systemd and at least systemd-shim), dbus (although I have to live with '(EE) dbus-core' on my Xorg.0.log), uuid-runtime and xdg-*. This scenario is more than enough (for _my_ needs): X11 just for running libreoffice-*, firefox-esr, and qemu. I consider Debian Recommendations as pretty mandatory in order to have a stable system running. That's why I question when I see recommendations that might not be that essential for a particular package functionality. Again, it is just a matter of choice. I will completely understand if you think in a different manner. Regards, Ricardo
