Bill, I have resent thi message to the debian-x list, I hope you don't mind -- perhaps this information will help someone else in the future. I've also broken your message apart into paragraphs, somewhat arbitrarily. :) I'm glad to hear you managed to fix the problem! :) ----- Forwarded message from Bill Darrow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ----- Envelope-to: sarnold@localhost Delivery-date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 16:56:47 -0800 Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 19:54:47 -0500 From: Bill Darrow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: Seth Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [[EMAIL PROTECTED]: interesting problems] Good news my friend. I was able to come to a workable solution. I spent the last 5 hours or so trying to figure this stuff out. I found that it finds no screens since none are useable. This doesn't really make any sense and I would guess this is simply due to the fact that the ati drivers suck terribly. They are probably probing incorrectly and gathering incorrect information which proves any possibility of a workable screen false. I am going to send a bug report to the xfree86 team about this. On second note, I am sending you information on how to resolve this problem for future reference in case anyone else ends up in a situation like I did. Basically, I was able to get the xserver-mach64 package from the potato package archive. I installed this package and to my surprise, its dependencies are actually met with the woody x packages. I then also installed xserver-common-v3 which I figured the mach64 xserver would need. I then relinked /etc/X11/X to the correct location of the mach64 xserver. Then, I needed to edit /etc/X11/Xserver to verify that all the information within it was correct. Once this was complete, I found that the old xf86config was still on the system but was renamed to xf86config-v3. So I ran that binary and created a new configuration file. My card was no longer in the archive, but I still was able go through the process, I just chose 'n' when it asked if I wanted to write the Xserver file. At this point, my xserver ran and operated as usual just like in the 3.3.6 days. Thanks for the help. Bill Darrow Seth Arnold wrote: > Ok, this situation is less than fun. > > My first thought -- pretty much guaranteed to work -- download/buy/use > the latest release of potato, and reinstall. Not much fun, but I bet X > will work. > > Second thought -- try dpkg -l | grep 4.0.1 and apt-get remove all these > packages. Check your /var/cache/apt/archives directory for the old X > packages. (If you don't clean your apt repository much, your old X .debs > might still be around.) > > Sadly, I have long since trashed my repository, and have no traces of > the original 3.3.x archives around. I would imagine there are many > mirrors of the old packages around -- ftp.cdrom.com and ftp.kernel.org > come to mind as likely to have mirrors going back a ways. > > Best of luck. > > * Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001210 16:24]: > > ----- Forwarded message from Bill Darrow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ----- > > > > From: Bill Darrow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: interesting problems > > Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 18:09:02 -0500 > > Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; U) > > X-Accept-Language: en > > > > Good afternoon. I've spent most of my day working at this interesting > > problem I am having. I upgraded earlier today only to notice that xf4 > > was replacing xf3.3.6. I had found bad experiences with this software > > before and chose to continue use of 3.3.6. I notified others of my > > problem and recieved information about installing the old xserver while > > basically still using the new base. This idea seems brilliant except > > for the fact that I was alarmed when I found that xserver-mach64 no > > longer exists. I can't grab one from an old dist as the dependencies > > are fucked up from those ones. Also, once I felt cornered, I tried > > using xf4, but it couldn't get a screen to work. None of the > > combinations seemed to work, I tried forever and it just kept spitting > > out that 'no screens found' after it found none of them to be useable. > > Now, I can't go back to the old xserver or use the new one. I do not > > have money to seek professional help in this situation and I do not have > > enough money to buy a different video card. I use this machine for work > > and it is all I have. Please see if you can help, I wasted an entire > > day with no pay now trying to upgrade and running into perl and x > > problems now. I can't afford another day like this one. Please, any > > help is greatly appreciated. You are my last resort. > > > > Time is precious, > > Bill Darrow > > > > > > ----- End forwarded message ----- > > > > -- > > G. Branden Robinson | "Why do we have to hide from the police, > > Debian GNU/Linux | Daddy?" > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] | "Because we use vi, son. They use > > http://deadbeast.net/~branden/ | emacs." > > -- > ``Oh Lord; Ooh you are so big; So absolutely huge; Gosh we're all > really impressed down here, I can tell you.'' ----- End forwarded message ----- -- ``Oh Lord; Ooh you are so big; So absolutely huge; Gosh we're all really impressed down here, I can tell you.'' -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]