Lucas Nussbaum writes ("Re: donations and paypal"):
> (Re-adding -project@ to Cc. I'm assuming that your reply to -www@ missed
> the fact that the mail was bounced to -project@.)
Yes.
> Paypal is currently listed as an option for Debian France, but some
> people disagreed that we should mention it.
Ah, I see, yes, thanks. That makes sense.
> > In fact that web page already says that
> >
> > | Debian is able to accept direct equipment donations
> >
> > Does that mean that you as DPL are decreeing that Debian is accepting
> > ownership of hardware ? That is contrary to the Debian constitution
> > and probably unlawful (depending on the jurisdiction).
>
> I'll let hardware-donations@d.o clarify, but AFAIK, we have had two
> kinds of hardware donations so far:
> - the ones where the donor did not ask for a legal document specifying
> who is the recipient of the hardware; we did not bother to write one.
What legal entity _ought_ to own the hardware in this case ? Possible
answers;
* A TO in a similar or neighbouring jurisdiction
* A single TO we use globally for this purpose
* The individual Debian contributors who receive and handle the
donation (or who manage it after receipt) - eg members of DSA
* The donor (ie, the donation is legally a loan)
Implications we should consider:
* Some TOs won't want to try to do inventory tracking
* In many jurisdictions end-of-life computer hardware costs money
to dispose of
* Team membership changes, of course
An implication I would explicitly exclude from consideration for most
of this kind of hardware is the worry that a team member who was the
legal owner might abscond with (`steal') the hardware. Our people are
trustworthy enough that that's a very small risk.
In reality we don't seem to have had much trouble with informal
arrangements. I don't know what's been done about disposal of
end-of-life hardware. But explicitly stating that informal donations
are to the individuals in the relevant team might be the easiest way
of avoiding the appearance that the DPL (or a team member) is acting
ultra vires.
> - the ones where a legal document was required. A TO was involved in
> those cases.
Right.
Thanks,
Ian.
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