I think that you have missed the point. I don't believe that the intention of the discussion was to size-off the merits of Open Source and Free Software.
I doubt that RMS is considering intentions, but is looking at facts. In current use, the term `open source' conflates at least two different actions. One action is the release of code under the GNU General Public License. Another action, which I myself have seen referred to as `open source', is the permission Microsoft gave to officials from the government of mainland China to study, but not copy, change, or redistribute, its Microsoft Windows source code. In a different case, about which I have also read, some developers worked on a Java project that Sun said, ahead of time, was open source but not free -- and the developers were suprised when Sun turned out to mean exactly what it had said: the developers were giving their work gratis to Sun for the corporation to restrict. You may think the intent of the phrase `open source' is only to refer to software that you and others may run, copy, study, change, and redistribute. Unfortunately, other people do not always intend that. A similar problem occurs when people (using the English language) understand `free software' to be `free' in the sense of gratis, rather than free in the sense of `free speech', `free markets', or `the free world'. However, enough people are sensitive to this problem that you often seen people referring to `free as in free speech, not free beer'. The goal is to avoid confusion. Rather, my reading of the message was that it proposed that different projects work together to offer greater protection against security threats. That is your reading. It certainly is not the reading of others who also use the phrase `open source'. Had the author wanted to use the phrase `open source' in a manner that avoided confusion, he could have used the phrase `free, libre, and open source' software (FLOSS), since that phrase has come to refer only to open source that is free, not to open source that is restricted. Like the appropriate response to two meanings of `free' in English, this action avoids the confusion that can otherwise occur. -- Robert J. Chassell Rattlesnake Enterprises http://www.rattlesnake.com GnuPG Key ID: 004B4AC8 http://www.teak.cc [EMAIL PROTECTED]