On Monday 27 May 2013 10:22:56 Miriam Ruiz wrote: > 2013/5/27 Lisi Reisz <lisi.re...@gmail.com>: > > On Monday 20 May 2013 09:33:06 Miriam Ruiz wrote: > >> Free Software is about meritocracy and elitism > > > > I have been unhappy with this since I first read it, and had held off > > saying anything while I pondered. > > Just for the record, and to avoid misinterpretations, I was just > trying to be descriptive in my email, I didn't say I was happy with > that, I was just describing what I see.
I should have quoted more of the sentence. You in fact said <quote> Free Software is about meritocracy and elitism, or at least it pretends to be. </quote> You appeared to me to be saying that OSS, not you, pretends to be elite. Whilst it certainly is in many ways elitist, and I agree with you there, I would have thought that it pretends to be inclusive? I quite agree that it is often not, in practice, as inclusive as one would wish. > Of course, you might not agree with me, and your perception might be > totally different. If any of you are not perceiving the FLOSS social > environment around you as technically elitist, feel free to say it, > I'd be really happy to hear it. It might just be me. > > My personal opinion is that for changing things, we have to be able to > acknowledge what's truly happening, and start moving from there. I > didn't say I was fully happy with the reality, in fact I'm not, and, > while I realize that some level of meritocracy is positive, my opinion > is that politeness, inclusiveness and human values are too. I agree with this - but I would still maintain that OSS *pretends* to be inclusive, though it may not actually be so!! One of the two first phrases that I learnt in French was "Vous prennez les choses au pied de la lettre". I'm sure that you can see why. :-( Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-women-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201305271044.42469.lisi.re...@gmail.com