Ehm, wrong footnote numbers -_- Here correct version. Sorry.
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 04:47:10PM +0200, Francesca Ciceri wrote: > Hi, > [snip] > > > > Really great stuff! Thanks for doing this. Is there more information? > > There's not a specific web or wiki page on it - the job on male contributors' > statistics isn't > started, yet - but I can speak about it and give you some ref. > > As you know, Margarita Manterola has created some statistics about female > presence in Debian. The first goal in making that it was trying to understand > if the DW Mentoring Program was successful in the previous years and what we > can do as group in the interest of female users/developers in Debian. > > We had some discussion [1] [2] on those statistics on debian-women ML. > > Marga's statistics was the first step, but we're not able to try conclusions > from them without some general data about the expected number of > women in a FLOSS project (to see if there's a specific lack of women in > Debian). Or maybe with data about numbers of male > contributors (to see if the classic imbalance between male and female > contributors is on expected values or not). > I think the second choice could be the best, because if we try to compare our > data about female contributors with general FLOSS data on female contributors, > we need to consider the research method and other general condition (like > sample,etc.) of the other study (in order to make a > correct comparison). > > > We need some others data to make a comparative analysis. > > So, last week we had a IRC meeting [3] in which we decided to proceed in this > direction: we will form a specific group (formed by me and Anne Ghisla) to > compile some statistics on male contributors in Debian. We will start on this > work soon. > First of all, we need to evaluate the pratical side of the job: Marga promised > to give us some hints :). We (me and Anna) haven't any official role in > Debian (i.e. we're not DD or DM) so I don't think we can have access to db to > parse data about contributors: this can be a problem. :) > > > So the goals would be: > > 1. improve Debian statistics about contributors > 1.1 create statistics on male contributors > 1.2 improve statistics on female contributors to track non DD/DM > > A great problem, IMHO, is tracking non DD/DM contributors: they are completely > invisible because they often use a sponsor to upload or commit (not in l10n > teams, for example: I'm not a DD/DM but I commit by myself on Debian website). > Maybe we can parse alioth groups and wiki db. > > 2. comparative analysis between > - Debian male and female contributors > - Debian female contributors and $other_distro female contributors > - Debian female contributors and FLOSS in general female numbers > > I've searched a little about other distros' statistics: it seems they haven't > numbers on female contributors. I've only found an Ubuntu Census Survey [4] > that's not gender-related and not very interesting cause the sample is build > not only from developers but also from users (it's mainly based on devel ML > but also on users' forums). In this survey the women percentage is 2.4%. > > > More interesting, I think, are the FLOSS-POLS studies. [5] > > Ok, this is a general idea about the statistics_stuff. Not implemented yet, > we've discussed on it and we are on the way to start it. > So, if someone else want join the Statistic Strike Force...:) > > > Cheers, > Francesca > > [1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-women/2010/08/msg00022.html > [2] http://lists.debian.org/debian-women/2010/08/msg00038.html > [3] http://lists.debian.org/debian-women/2010/09/msg00029.html > [4] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuCensusSurvey > [5] http://www.flosspols.org/index.php > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-women-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100911151226.gc1...@kasbah
