2009/9/10 martin f krafft <madd...@debian.org>: > also sprach Miriam Ruiz <mir...@debian.org> [2009.09.10.1137 +0200]: >> I'm just thinking aloud, but I wonder if it might make sense to >> also have a women-only mailing list, so that women who otherwise >> wouldn't intervene can do it, kinda Systers or the Girls Only >> mailing list at LinuxChix. Dunno if there would be demand for >> that, but I have the feeling that something positive might come >> from it. > > I would consider this a step backwards. > > Whenever I talk about debian-women to anyone, I am proud that we > have managed to revolutionise Debian in many ways, and that the need > for debian-women began to shrink, because the ideas and directions > that this project defined and pursued spilled into pretty much all > other parts of our project. > > I am proud that we've been a mixed group from the start, a group of > people who pretty quickly saw beyond the distinction between > genders, but set out to fix the rough style of conduct that > cowboy-Debian used to be. I think we managed to teach a lot of > people to tone down (myself included!), and have made Debian a more > enjoyable place for many of us, including the men who hang out here > and elsewhere. I think the number of posts by women has increased > over the last five years, not by a whole lot and we still need to > become more supportive of everyone, but in my humble opinion, we're > on the right track.
I don't have time to properly reply now, but I just wanted to make something clear, I am not complaining about Debian. With some exceptions, that are really marginal, I share your feelings in being proud of Debian being able to achieve a comfortable environment for both men and women. I don't think that it is Debian who is failing now. Really, I don't. Just to make it crystal clear: I think that Debian is doing really great. My suggestion shall not be interpreted at all as a criticism to Debian. Once that is said, I'm just wondering why we are not being able to get more women on board. I know that the main problem comes from outside Debian, and we just don't have control over the society in general. My fuzzy proposal wants to target that somehow. Greetings, Miry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-women-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
