On Thu, Dec 16, 2004 at 09:41:06AM -0600, Colleen Hatfield wrote: > I think it's great to see so much support from the rest of the (mostly > male) Debian community, and I think that discouraging this type of > participation would be detrimental to the goals we are trying to > achieve (I realize that this isn't what you were suggesting, Erinn). > I also think that our project has very strong female leadership, and > that should be obvious to even the newest of newbies ;-).
Very very well said. Much more clearly stated than what I was trying a couple nights ago at 3am (message never got sent because I was too tired to try to remember my PGP pass phrase among other things). Acknowledging that I have not been active in Debian-Women for various reason, I would still like to offer up a small, modest amount of advice. Feminism isn't about showing that women are superior to men. It's not about putting women's needs over men's needs. In fact, both of those examples are contrary to what the ideal feminist is. Feminism is about /equality/. Despite the equality, though, one must keep in mind the differences between men and women that make feminism so important. Women are *naturally* more inviting, more compassionate and more open. Now, not all women have these qualities ingrained in them better than all men, but in general you'll find this true. These don't have to be detrimental qualities. Used to our benefit, in fact, these qualities can help attain goals. And please keep in mind, harboring negative feelings based on sex (even towards guys) and acting on those negative feelings only hurts us in the long run. It will damage the support that's been built. It will discourage future/further support from others. It encourages a clique within Debian rather than trying to promote full membership and participation in the community at large. And, worst of all, it's not feminism; it's a form of reverse discrimination that makes us (all of us) look every bit as bad as what we're fighting. In other words, it doesn't promote /equality/ at all. Love and bunnies, Patty -- ---------------------------------------------------------- Patty Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---------------------------------------------------------- At times, you may end up far away from you; you may not be sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your passion takes you. --- J. Michael Straczynski
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