On Thu, Oct 07, 2004 at 05:33:05PM -0700, Debian Bug Tracking System wrote:
> This is an automatic notification regarding your Bug report > #160529: ITP: ask -- Active Spam Killer, > which was filed against the wnpp package. > > It has been closed by one of the developers, namely > martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. > > With reference to > > http://kmself.home.netcom.com/Rants/challenge-response.html > > (especially at the bottom) > > I think this package should not be in Debian. Therefore I am closing > this bug. Before I go any further, please keep in mind that it is not my intention to create any kind of flame wars over the topic. In all honesty, I've been very busy lately to give attention to ASK, other than fixing bugs. If it is decided that the project shouldn't ever be in Debian, I'll not pursue the matter any further. I developed ASK for personal use, a few years ago. I gave copies of ASK to a few friends, who suggested new features and fixes. After a while, I decided to release ASK as a free-software challenge-response solution to spam. Despite some minor problems, ASK has generally received good responses from its user base. One day, I woke up with the "research" of Mr. Karsten in my mailbox. Quite to my surprise, I discovered he had made an incredible effort to post his results to every place where prospective ASK users could see them, including the main ASK user's mailing list, the ASK-announce mailing-list (an announcement only list), the ASK message feedback section on freshmeat.net, and on the users, bugs and feature-enhancement forums of sourceforge.net. Personally, I find his attitude childish and gratuitously aggressive towards me and the other users/developers of ASK. Posting off-topic messages to support and bug forums is, to say the least, a demonstration of bad net citizenship. To make matters even more embarrassing, his "paper" contains gross misconceptions, and presents his opinions or bias against some tools as the absolute truth. As it is usual in these situations, he's able to generate a lot of heat, but no light. But again, it is a free world, so let's allow Mr. Karsten to enjoy himself with the results of his work. My big concern, however, is with what I saw here today, when Mr. Krafft closed the ITP because he "Does not think this package should be in Debian", based on the aforementioned report by Mr. Karsten. So, my question is, what is the criteria to have a project adopted in Debian? Should new projects should be denied based on personal opinions of a few, or reports of questionable accuracy? I'd hate to learn that this is the policy, as it would cast a shadow of doubt on the trust I have in the Debian project. Sincerely Marco Paganini > > --=20 > Please do not CC me when replying to lists; I read them! > =20 > .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > : :' : proud Debian developer, admin, and user > `. `'` > `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing a system > =20 > Invalid/expired PGP subkeys? Use subkeys.pgp.net as keyserver! > > --zYM0uCDKw75PZbzx > Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" > Content-Description: Digital signature > Content-Disposition: inline > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFBZdyIIgvIgzMMSnURAmXiAJ9Cwc2AqTzzgFPfEd+E19i7Tm3IYgCfTnnd > d/WtPmKbinYQgb5vGAelB/w= > =5wEu > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > --zYM0uCDKw75PZbzx-- -- Marco Paganini | UNIX / Linux / Networking [EMAIL PROTECTED] | PGP: http://www.paganini.net/pgp/ http://www.paganini.net | Magnus Frater te spectat...
