On Mon, Sep 30, 2002 at 07:17:54PM -0400, Doug Lea wrote:

> I think I'm OK. The permission agreement I signed says in its
> entirety (sorry that pasting from acroread doesn't preserve format)

<snip>

Hmm, I'm definately out of my depth on this.  I'll ask on the
debian-legal mailing list for advice on what this means for Debian.

I'm a bit concerned that the language that gives a "non-transferable"
license to you might not permit a third party (like Debian) to distribute
copies (or if simple redistribution is allowed, distribution of modified
versions might not be).  I'll let you know if wiser legal minds decide
that license is not satisfactory.

> Right. The key is for Sun to keep their legitimate desire for people
> not to call non-compliant implementations "Java" distinct from their
> distribution licenses. Partially liberating the TCK (compliance test
> suites) was a pretty big step towards this, so I truly am
> optimistic. But it is very slow going.

Yes, I hope they make progress.  It's a really unfortunate fact that
Java is largely unsupported on some Free Software platforms, due to
Sun's licensing decisions.  Debian's support for Java still lags far
behind other contemporary languages like Python, despite the fact that
Java probably has many more users.

> I should also have mentioned that dl.util.concurrent is on its way
> out. As you may have noticed on the intro page, we are in the midst of
> putting this stuff in Java proper (as java.util.concurrent) for
> release 1.5. But the package will also be available separately on the
> same terms as always. There will be a major update hopefully around
> January so the the APIs will match. For more details, see.
>   http://gee.cs.oswego.edu/dl/concurrency-interest/index.html

I did see your note about that on the info page.  I'm glad to hear
that the public domain version of the library will still be available
(though if the licensing of JDK 1.5 is improved from the current
versions perhaps we'll be able to use the standard version).

Anyway, thanks again for your working on these questions.  And most
of all, thanks for your contributions to Free Software!

-- 
Steven Barker                                      [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  I have not yet begun to byte!
Get my GnuPG public key at: http://www.blckknght.org/publickey.asc
Fingerprint: 272A 3EC8 52CE F22B F745  775E 5292 F743 EBD5 936B

Attachment: pgpgYpFE5nUI2.pgp
Description: PGP signature

Reply via email to