Hi Simon,
Am Fri, Mar 21, 2025 at 10:48:08AM +0100 schrieb Simon Josefsson:
> Encouraging collaboration between Debian and Ubuntu seems like a good
> thing to me since there is a lot of work/code re-use and people overlap
> between these projects.
As I wrote in my other answer[1] I prefer collaboration with *any*
Debian derivative.
> Some detailed topics for consideration:
>
> - Ubuntu uses Snap and the Snap Store, is that something which Debian
> should adopt as part of the improved collaboration with Ubuntu?
I do not consider this a topic that is relevant for the DPL. Following
our Do-O-Cracy principle I expect people who need Snaps to care for the
snap infrastructure (which is working as far as I'm informed) as well as
say flatpacks.
> - Ubuntu has a different system installer than Debian, is merging them
> within scope?
I also do not think that the DPL should decide about the installer. I'm
all for cooperation and seeking for synergies. But this is the decision
of the d-i team.
> - Ubuntu is aligned with corporate/governmental interests that can have
> a preference for non-GPL software. What are the concerns
> collaborating along that effort? I'm thinking about replacing
> CoreUtils with UUtils, GCC with Clang, GnuPG with Seqoia etc.
Same here: If someone decides to suport the said alternatives (as far
as I can see these exist) it might be picked up by any derivative. If
maintainers of our dreivatives might care for the packages upstream in
Debian - great.
> - Ubuntu is generally more relaxed about copyright licensing and
> software freedom perspective than Debian, and Ubuntu includes and make
> use of more non-free content than what is in Debian. Is collaborating
> on expanding that in scope for Debian?
For me Debian equals to Debian main which contains software released
under DFSG free licenses. I don't see any change coming here, neither
do I see any good reason for this. I do not consider it as
"collaboration" if we might weaken this principle.
> - Ubuntu doesn't support some architectures/ports that we have in
> Debian, and Ubuntu support/assume some CPU features that Debian
> doesn't. Is harmonizing the set of support in scope?
I do not see any good reason in droping features from Debian just
because one or more of our derivatives does not. We should decide on
our own what we are able to support. If we have the person-power to
support our release architectures that's great. I absolutely fail to
see in which way droping some architecture in Debian will help any
derivative.
> - Ubuntu has a fixed time-based release schedule, as that something we
> should adopt?
I like the principle: "Its ready when its ready." The only thing
I would love to enhance in our release cycle is that we should strive
to have as short as possible time from freeze to release.
Kind regards
Andreas.
[1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2025/03/msg00043.html
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