On Thu, Aug 25, 2022 at 06:36:36PM +0000, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Thu, Aug 25, 2022 at 08:18:55AM -0700, Ross Vandegrift wrote: > > Hi Bart, > > > > On Wed, Aug 24, 2022 at 10:12:48AM +0200, Bart Martens wrote: > > > The Debian project is permitted to make distribution media (installer > > > images > > > and live images) containing packages from the non-free section of the > > > Debian > > > archive available for download alongside with the free media in a way > > > that the > > > user is informed before downloading which media are the free ones. > > > > Do you mean that official or unofficial media can contain packages from > > non-free? > > > > If you mean official media, this is more radical than Steve's proposal. > > It would permit arbitrary non-free packages as long as users were > > informed. > > > > If you mean unofficial media - that's the status quo. In which case, > > this option is the same as Simon's and none of the above. > > > > Ross > > > > /packages from the non-free *firmware* section/
My proposal does not add such new section ... > > This is _only_ firmware and not arbitrary non-free packages. It's not drivers > per se. ... does not make such distinction ... > > The "official" and "unofficial" media are currently prepared by the same > team on the same machines. The "unofficial" media contains non-free firmware > (and drivers of all sorts, potentially, that go wider than firmware). > > IMHO, they're both official - one is free + free firmware, one is > free+non-free > firmware. ... and does not change the meaning and scope of "official". > > Steve's proposal is strictly limited to firmware, here, and there is a > separate non-free firmware portion of the archive that was created at > Debconf22 in Pristina. Steve's proposal is adding non-free firmware in our currently free installer. Introducing a new section in the archive doesn't change that. My proposal focuses on one thing: helping our users find the installer they need for their hardware by no longer hiding our non-free installers. This applies to the existing non-free installers and also to the new kind of installer Steve has in mind. So our free installer remains free. > > All best, as ever, > > Andy Cater >
