Dear Martín, > Yesterday I posted[0] about my experience dealing with toxic > contributors in Debian
Thank you so much for sharing this. I hope others will reply to your post on such an important topic. There are clearly no easy solutions and regrettably this issue extends far beyond Debian to almost all free software projects. :( Now, I do share some of your pessimism regarding inactivity and lack of acknowledgement but in the last six months I believe the topic of toxic developers from a mental health standpoint is at least starting to get the airing it has always deserved. To underline a few points, you are absolutely right to point out that a fellow contributor doesn't even have to reach anywhere close the label of "toxic" or for them to be breaking explicit rules for them to affect others in a profoundly negatively way. For example, knowing that I might have a tolerable-but-poor interaction with a developer could put me off spending more time than I might otherwise have done. Furthermore, prospective developers observing from the outside are likely to just pass that team by, calculating it is not worth the emotional investment. If the developer believes that their next step is to invoke the CTTE or DAM, but the interaction doesn't warrant that level just yet, this causes feelings of disempowerment and even resentfulness towards the project as a while. This is obviously a detriment to that person's sense of self- respect and self-worth, but — as a secondary concern — for Debian itself. I am "lucky" enough that I have not experienced this to the same level as you so cannot speak from personal experience (or I may have subconsciously moved onto other interests). However, on consulting others over the past few days, one common theme/idea is that to tolerate is — essentially — to approve of it. In practical terms, we should be pointing out poor behaviour when we see it and not relying on the aggrieved party to do so. We could advertise more general themes or even slogans along the lines of "If You See Something, Say Something" (!) in order to tilt the zeitgeist. We could also better help people provide out-of-band (or even private) feedback to offenders, letting them know how their behaviour is being interpreted by the others and community at large. For example, in such messages, it is more productive to concentrate on perception rather than focusing on the actions themselves Over time, attitudes, tolerances and people can change, but it will always be difficult to improve our culture of constructive feedback in such a diverse community overnight. I'd love to be able to work with you further on this. Best wishes, -- ,''`. : :' : Chris Lamb `. `'` la...@debian.org / chris-lamb.co.uk `-