Scott Kitterman <deb...@kitterman.com> writes: > On Thursday, January 12, 2017 02:26:59 PM Sean Whitton wrote: >> Hello, >> >> On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 03:11:46AM +0000, Scott Kitterman wrote: >> > Here's an example of possible unintended consequences: >> > >> > Currently we enumerate no specifics about exceptions to when things >> > should be public. Once we have a foundational list of acceptable >> > reasons to not be public (security would be the only one), then it's >> > easy to infer that's the complete list. >> > >> > Would this GR prohibit the tech ctte practice of private deliberations >> > about recommendations for new members? I think it might. >> > >> > I've worked in private with other DDs to resolve disputes within the >> > project. Often a quiet conversation out of the public glare can make >> > solutions possible that wouldn't happen if all discussion was public. >> > Does this GR prohibit that? Maybe. >> >> Thank you for your e-mail -- I now understand your objection. >> >> All the other wording in clause 3 is about bug reports against the >> Debian system. The examples that you give are about unresolved issues >> in the Debian project -- disputes between people, rather than problems >> in source and binary packages. I find the line between the Debian >> system and the Debian project to be fairly sharp. I'd be interested to >> hear if you disagree. >> >> The header of clause 3 ("We will not hide problems") admittedly could >> refer to your examples. Would it help if my GR text were amended to >> append "in the Debian system" to the header of the clause? > > That then has the opposite problem. It clearly narrows the notion of not > hiding problems and I don't think that's good either. > > I'm still at don't monkey with foundational documents to solve > non-problems.
Quite. I'm yet to be convinced that there exists anyone that would be upset by the fact that our security team might abide by embargoes in supposed defiance of 'not hide problems'. I am also not convinced that if there does exist such a person, and they are capable of becoming upset enough about it to be driven away from Debian, that that would be a great loss. Cheers, Phil. -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560] HANDS.COM Ltd. |-| http://www.hands.com/ http://ftp.uk.debian.org/ |(| Hugo-Klemm-Strasse 34, 21075 Hamburg, GERMANY
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