Bas Wijnen writes ("Re: "done with consensus decisionmaking", "war", "rearguard battles" [was: Re: REISSUED CfV: General Resolution: Init system coupling]"): > [stuff]
Bas, thank you very much for your support, but I'm afraid I really have to disagree with some of what you have said: > So let me explain how I see the situation. I also have a personal > opinion about systemd, but that wasn't part of my previous message and > I've tried to keep it out of this one (but I didn't entirely succeed). > > - There are organisations (Microsoft, Apple, probably the NSA, probably > not Red Hat) who want to harm free software in general, or Debian in > particular. > - It is likely that those who are against us try to infiltrate our > organisation. These things are probably true, but I don't think they are relevant to the current disputes. > - Lennart and his gang are accused of being such infiltrators, trying to > take over the free software world by force, with the purpose of > harming it to the greatest extent possible. (This is an observation > that this accusation exists, not a judgement on whether this is true.) I'm afraid I think that such characterisations of systemd upstream are absurd. I guess it's just a measure of how bad the discourse has become that people will take such things seriously, and think that I believe them. For the record, I don't think it is necessary to invoke a shadowy conspiracy to explain what is going on. The actions we have seen from systemd upstream can IMO be entirely explained by undisputed facts combined with very ordinary human frailty. I certainly have strong feelings about some of what systemd upstream have done. Indeed Bas's comments later in his message cover some of those reasons I have for being upset with systemd's promoters. But, I don't believe that systemd folks are trying to destroy free software, or destroy Debian. Thanks, Ian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-vote-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/21603.41913.48575.266...@chiark.greenend.org.uk