On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 11:55:30PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > On 20/10/14 at 22:26 +0200, Arno T?ll wrote: > > That's - I think - a good default and affirms Debian's point of view > > that the respective maintainers can judge best what's a good requirement > > for their packages. Finally I encourage everyone to focus on the > > connotation in Luca's amendment. It allows maintainers to tie their > > software to a particular init system only as a last resort when > > absolutely necessary - not by pure choice, or by laziness. > > I disagree with this interpretation. > We have processes in place in Debian to deal with such last resort situations: > - someone opens an RC bug against the package, stating why it is > unsuitable for release > - the release team reviews the bug, and might (or not) mark it with the > jessie-ignore tag
This seems mistaken to me -- issues shouldn't have to be release critical to be reviewed, or go through the release team. I would have said the process should be: - discussion happens on -policy or -devel about what the best approach on some issue is - someone opens a bug against the package that takes a less effective approach - the maintainer reviews the bug and takes whatever action they consider appropriate - further discussion happens on the bug, -policy or -devel or similar - as a last resort, the matter is escalated to the tech ctte for review I don't think there's a need for that process to involve blocking a package from release, or any necessity to distract the release team from coordination issues to participate in resolving technical conflicts. > I think that this would be a significant step backward in the way we > promote consistent technical practices in all Debian packages. Promoting consistent technical practices is policy's purpose, not the release team's, surely? >From what I can see, policy currently (version 3.9.6.0) covers init.d scripts and upstart, but doesn't mention systemd or unit files. That seems suboptimal to me...? Cheers, aj -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-vote-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20141021082155.ga11...@master.debian.org