Hi, On Sun, Oct 03, 2010 at 09:52:54AM +0200, Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) wrote: > On 02-10-2010 23:20, Ana Guerrero wrote: > > On Sat, Oct 02, 2010 at 01:07:57AM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > > [...] > >> The Debian project, therefore, invites the Debian Account Managers to: > > [...] > >> * Establish procedures to evaluate and accept contributors of > >> non-packaging work as Debian Developers. > > > > Reading this, I understand with this GR we would be accepting in advance > > whatever procedure DAM consider appropriate to accept contributors of > > non-packaging work as Debian Developers. > > Isn't the case already? I mean, DAM can change that > procedure at any time, sure we can have a GR to revert it, but > there wouldn't be a difference from what is already in place, > they get to decide how people get "full Debian membership".
Exactly, so if DAM can already change that anytime and they have already shown they would like to accept non-packaging DD, then what is this GR for? Yes, I know it is to see if the project members agree to have non-packagers contributors, then why we need the DAM bit there? > > I have not read all the discussion thread, but it seems there is already > > a rough idea of how this will be done. It would be a very good idea and > > I would be very grateful if an email, with the general plan of how this > > will be implemented, is sent before the voting period begins. > > IMHO, it may be giving the false impression that this GR > is attached with some specific procedure and it is not. The GR > is just a matter of state it clear, as a project, that we encourage > and accept members that are not code (or packaging) contributors, > how they'll be accepted is a different matter, shouldn't be impacted > by the rules and I do trust (and expect) DAMs (and NM FrontDesk) > will clearly communicate changes on this matter. > I understand this GR as: DAM team, go ahead and establish the procedure you think is the best. You assume there will be a discussion, I don't, because we are not asking them to discuss, we asking them to implement what they think is appropiate. That is why I asked an email from DAM about what to expect. Don't read me wrong, I *want* non-packaging DD, but with the current wording, looks like if you want non-packaging DDs, you must accept in advance they will be handled according to a unknown procedure. I feel some people when faced with this option will vote no. Sure we can override DAM later with a GR, but we clearly do not want that. If the text were something like: "inviting DAM to start a discussion in the project about the procedures to to evaluate and accept contributors of non-packaging work as Debian Developers", it would be different. Ana -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-vote-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20101004152326.ga15...@ekaia.org
