On Thu, Sep 21, 2006 at 12:45:59PM +0200, Loïc Minier wrote: > On Thu, Sep 21, 2006, Denis Barbier wrote: > > Now, if you strip your counter-proposal down to > > The Dunc project is not the result of a decision of the Debian Project > > I will second it and withdraw my proposal. > > While I could do this, our voting system makes it ok to have very > similar propositions in the same ballot, so there's no problem in > adding a new proposal similar to mine.
My proposal was intended to be straightforward, to answer a simple question: "whether the [Dunc] organisation can be sufficiently "outside" of Debian when the DPL is intimately involved." It obviously failed, many people got it wrong. But I do not understand why people keep writing proposals by mixing different items, some of them being divisive. For instance, your proposal embeds several statements: a. Debian supports its DPL. b. Debian blesses the Dunc project. c. Debian and Dunc are two distinct bodies. In my proposal, I deliberately avoided to say anything in favor of or against Dunc, because we gain nothing with such a statement. If it fails, this will also become a Debian failure, If it succeeds, well, this will also be good for Debian. > If you want, I can propose a second proposal, I don't think there's > any problem with me sending two proposals. However, I think it would > much simpler if you would simply withdraw your proposal and propose > the stripped text instead. It has a better chance of success if it is proposed by someone who is seen as supporting this experiment. Given the heated reactions, I doubt that I am the adequate person. Denis -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]