James Troup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > But I never personally replied to Joey's mail about the next point > release explicitly saying that fixing sudo was a pre-depends, and I > apologise for that.
You're not a DPL candidate, and if this question is relevant at all, it's relevant to DPL candidates. So don't think it's a personal question, though I would appreciate hearing your thoughts on the matter also. Especially however, I want to hear what the candidates think. I would appreciate the work done by others in Debian more if there were some kind of rule, principle, or guideline that if a question is not given a serious and thoughtful response, allowing for delays and vacations and whatnot, that any debian developer has the right to go ahead and do something themselves. We already have this rule in the case of NMUs to fix release critical bugs. We also have a procedure for replacing developers who go totally MIA, and an informal procedure for hijacking packages from vaguely-MIA maintainers. But I feel frustrated when I ask a developer a question, and hear nothing back for ages and ages. (And I admit that there have been times when I have myself been guilty of this same problem.) However, if there is an RC bug in a package, and the maintainer has not responded, eventually it's allowed for me to just NMU the package myself. How about extending this to other areas of the project? One difficulty, of course, is that NMUs are massively documented, and fairly easily reversed. Other changes are not so, which may make this too hard, in practice, to accomplish. What about a related idea, in which everyone has some sort of obligation to respond to emails? I appreciate James' apology above for not responding to a message from Joey (or whatever the details are; it's not something that particularly concerns *me* in this case). I have experienced that an email to debian-release nearly always gets a response. I appreciate this, and it means that I can make progress, or at least feel like I can. When I have a release-relevant question, I get an answer, even if I write an over-hasty question, or whatnot. Moreover, since it's a public mailing list, it doesn't matter if the official release managers are overloaded: generally there is someone else who can answer if they don't. And if a question is missed or overlooked, it's fine to repeat it and ask again. What about some sort of general expectation that other developers do the same thing? I would find interactions with ftpmaster more, hrm, comfortable? pleasant? if I could rely on getting some kind of response back. However, when I mail ftpmaster, my recollection is that most of the time the work implied by my question happens, or there is a good reason for it not to, but I almost never have any interaction with the person who did it (except in the case of NEW queue processing, where I do hear back). That's only one example, but perhaps there are others. Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]