On Sun, Feb 05, 2006 at 09:14:12PM -0600, Richard Darst wrote: > On Mon, Feb 06, 2006 at 11:31:38AM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote: > > [the topic is invariant sections] > > > i challenge any of you zealots to come up with a REAL WORLD, PRACTICAL > > proof that the GFDL is non-free (and i mean actually non-free, not > > merely inconvenient. the DFSG does not require convenience, only > > freedom). > > 1) > > A while back, someone quoted Richard Stallman (not that it's happened > just once). If that was in anything GFDLed with large invariant > sections, as philosophical things tend to be, the quote wouldn't have > been used, since it would make the message too long. Also, the kind > of quotes relevant to this discussion would be in invariant sections, > only making things more complicated.
bullshit. fair use allows quoting for purposes of review or comment. a significantly larger work would simply have to include the invariant section(s). that might be inconvenient, but freedom does not require convenience. > 2) > > If someone wanted to create a work discussing this GFDL-debate, and > everyone's work was GFDLed with invariant sections, could they? > Undoubtedly a lot of what is relevant would be in invariant sections. > Would you want to try to write something under those conditions? > Invariant stuff places an unworkable restriction beyond the author > exercising due care to cite everything properly. yes, of course they could. they'd just have to include all of the invariant sections. that might be a complete pain in the arse, but that's a convenience issue, not a freedom issue. > > proof that the GFDL is non-free (and i mean actually non-free, not > > merely inconvenient. the DFSG does not require convenience, only > > freedom). > > "Everything is free, if you give up enough freedoms". convenience is not required by freedom. in fact, freedom is often inconvenient. score so far: 1 bullshit argument, 2 confusings of convenience for freedom. craig -- craig sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (part time cyborg) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
