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Please refer to the following messages, in which a General resolution was proposed, and seconded: http://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2004/debian-vote-200404/msg00186.html http://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2004/debian-vote-200404/msg00187.html http://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2004/debian-vote-200404/msg00190.html http://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2004/debian-vote-200404/msg00191.html http://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2004/debian-vote-200404/msg00202.html http://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2004/debian-vote-200404/msg00203.html http://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2004/debian-vote-200404/msg00204.html Time Line: Proposal and Wednesday, April 28^th, 2004 amendment Discussion Wednesday, April 28^th, Wednesday, May 12^th, Period: 23:59:59 UTC, 2004 23:59:59 UTC, 2004 Voting Period Wednesday, May 12^th, Wednesday, May 26^st, 23:59:59 UTC, 2004 23:59:59 UTC, 2004 Please note that amendments may reset the discussion period and change the time table. Proposer: Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] Seconds: 1. Joe Wreschnig [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2. Stephen Frost [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3. Scott Dier [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4. Chad Walstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5. Pierre Machard [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6. Cesar Mendoza [EMAIL PROTECTED] Text: The actual text of the GR is: The Debian Project, affirming its committment to principles of freeness for all works it distributes, but recognizing that changing the Social Contract today would have grave consequences for the upcoming stable release, a fact which does not serve our goals or the interests of our users, hereby resolves: 1. that the amendments to the Social Contract contained within the General Resolution `Editorial Amendments To The Social Contract' (2004 vote 003) be immediately rescinded; 2. that these amendments, which have already been ratified by the Debian Project, will be reinstated effective as of September 1, 2004 without further cause for deliberation. Rationale As a seconder of the earlier GR, I certainly do consider these amendments to be editorial in nature, as they are consistent with my understanding of the existing Social Contract; and I believe these clarifications are beneficial in the long term, because the ambiguities in the Social Contract led mostly to sterile arguments about whether the DFSG *should* apply to works we distribute that are not programs. It's just the timing that sucks. In talking with the Release Manager, it is apparent to me that his understanding of the previous wording of the Social Contract, while different from mine, is internally consistent; and that attempting to persuade him that a different interpretation should have held would do nothing to move the release forward, as I cannot in good conscience argue that he should be less principled in the enforcement of the Social Contract than he has been to date. I am therefore putting forth this proposal because my *own* principles hold that releasing sarge this year with the same blemishes that have existed since the beginning is better than releasing a sarge next year that has no non-DFSG content. A fixed four month period should (based on current projections) give us ample time to release sarge, while not allowing so much time that maintainers are left to think that resolving the status of non-program components of Debian vis à vis the DFSG is not an imminent concern. Since this modifies the Social Contract, this requires a 3:1 majority to pass. - -- A comment on schedules: Ok, how long will it take? For each manager involved in initial meetings add one month. For each manager who says "data flow analysis" add another month. For each unique end-user type add one month. For each unknown software package to be employed add two months. For each unknown hardware device add two months. For each 100 miles between developer and installation add one month. For each type of communication channel add one month. If an IBM mainframe shop is involved and you are working on a non-IBM system add 6 months. If an IBM mainframe shop is involved and you are working on an IBM system add 9 months. Round up to the nearest half-year. --Brad Sherman By the way, ALL software projects are done by iterative prototyping. Some companies call their prototypes "releases", that's all. Debian Project Secretary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/vote/> 1024R/C7261095 print CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Processed by: Debian GNU/Linux -> Emacs -> Gnus -> Mailcrypt iD8DBQFAj1QbIbrau78kQkwRAnruAJ4qpgUH/oGfoOGk240vf3wIwXVADwCfXYRt XEiKjh9tA3aAL1772MeRDaQ= =7j8P -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----