On Thu, Feb 26, 2004 at 11:47:45AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > It is not that we don't want it to happen, by all way, implement it, and > if it fullfills all its promise, i would be glad to move my non-free > packages to it, but i will not use my time and energy to make it happen, > as i have less wasteful ways of using my free time, working on my > packages in debian/main, on d-i, and on other free projects. > > Also, i want to point out that this non-free.org thingy, maintained by > debian people, providing packages maintained by debian people, and > having to intertie neatly with the remaining of debian packages in main, > would be a shame. It is not because you name it non-free.org that it > will not be linked to debian anymore than us saying non-free is not part > of debian. So is the effort involved really worth it ? Just that some > bunch of hypocrits can be satisfied that 'debian doesn't distribute > non-free stuff', and are able to close the eyes on non-free.org while > they could not on debian/non-free ? > > And finally, i believe that a non-free.org would not be a good thing, it > would be even worse as debian/non-free is, and a danger to the project, > since it could well be that it may take more importance in the future, > and that people who would contribute to debian may be more interested in > contributing to non-free.org instead, with its less restrictive rules, > and sometimes quite desdaining debian-legal folk. Do you really want to > be the one responsible for this ? For an eventual future fork of debian ?
Your mail has a strange slope. First, you say you 'would be glad to move [your] non-free packages to it', but in the end you say you 'believe that a non-free.org would not be a good thing' and start talking about the downfall of Debian because of non-free. Anyway, if non-free.org leads to the fact that people mainly interested in maintaining non-free Debian packages will not bother to join the project, well, I'd consider this an improvement. Debian is forked everyday by 3rd party distributions, and quite frankly, the non-free fork would be one of the most logical and apparent. And the fact whether people think it is worth the effort to differentiate between ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/non-free and ftp.non-free.org should be left to the person voting. It is highly subjective and will *never* be solved by discussion. Really, I wonder how I managed to get into this discussion *again*. I was just saying that I'm happy to discuss *implementation details*, not talking about the pro and cons of this. I hope you understand that I will only very selectively answer to mails which go in the former direction from now on, I've got more important stuff to do. Michael -- Michael Banck Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.advogato.org/person/mbanck/diary.html