I'm chopping lots of stuff out here. On Fri, Dec 08, 2000 at 01:53:50PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > > > > constitution, while a vote in favor of B is a vote in favor of not > > > > modifying the constitution. > > > This, however, doesn't make any sense. Again, there is no such thing > > > as a vote that is simply "for" or "against" modifying the constitution, > > > unless the vote simply has "yes" and "no" options. > > So, a vote which prefers A to B is a vote which prefers an option which > > modifies the constitution to an option which does not. A vote which > > prefers B to A is a vote which prefers not modifying the constitution > > to an option which prefers modifying the constitution. > > Do you disagree with this statement? > > Yes. Take a single vote that ranks: > > [ 2 ] A (change the constitution) > [ 1 ] B (do such and such, don't change the constitution) > [ 3 ] S (don't change anything, including the constitution) > > You'll note that B is preferred to A: thus it's a vote which prefers not > modifying the constitution.
Agreed. > You'll note that A is preferred to S: thus it's a vote *for* modifying > the constitution. You'll note that this preference is secondary. > So yes, I think that's an unhelpful distinction to try to make. Explain to me, again, why the first preference is no more important than the other preferences? .......chop, hack, slash....... > Conveniently, your options aren't independent enough to actually be > decided in separate ballots in any fair way (at least as far as I > can tell [0]). Add in the missing option if that makes things work better. > Please rate your preferences for the final form of the draft resolution: > [ _ ] P > [ _ ] P+A > [ _ ] P+B > [ _ ] P+A+B > [ _ ] P+A+C > [ _ ] P+B+C > [ _ ] Further Discussion > > Should P be the final form of the draft resolution, please rate your > preferences for its acceptance: > [ _ ] Yes > [ _ ] No > [ _ ] Further Discussion > > Should P+A be the fin... > (etc) This looks like one amendment ballot and six other ballots, one which would be a final ballot, and five which would be neither amendment ballots nor final ballots. I don't see anything in the constitution which allows for these non-ballots. Also.. the constitution does specify that the user be able to vote differently >>in the final ballot<< for each of the forms of final draft resolution. You're only allowing the user to vote on one form of the final draft resolution in the final ballot. Thanks, -- Raul
