>>"Branden" == Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Branden> You typically order "doing nothing" over just about anything Branden> I've ever proposed or done, but I'm getting used to it. I did not mean to be insulting. But yes, that has, unfortunately, been true of most things in the past (apart from the DMUP effort, which died a quick death. Branden> Of course not. To admit that the issues are distinct is to Branden> admit that you're engaging in a practice common among, for Branden> instance, U.S. Congressional legislators: if you've got Branden> something that you or some Special Interest Group really Branden> wants passed but which you fear may not stand on its own Branden> merits, you tack it on as a rider to some other Branden> uncontroversial piece of legislation. May I remind you my proposal on -project preceded yours, and you added a rider on my proposal exactly as you say above? I at least offered my proposal as an alternative to yours, not as an added on rider. On this at least I say you are absolutely wrong. If anyone can be accused of adding riders to a totally different proposal, it must be you, for your so called amendment to my proposal in -project. Branden> The notion of "Foundational Documents" is completely new Branden> stuff without any hint of precedent within the Constitution. Ah yes. So it is. Are you against it for its novelty? Branden> Regardless of its merits (or lack thereof), it is in no Branden> sense conceptually related to the following diff: Branden> - issue Branden> + issue, modify, and withdraw There is a difference, but not to one who can only see iddues in terms of extremes. My stance is modify with caution. And this caution, embodies by the requirement for a supermajority, is not explicit in the naivbely simplistic ``cenceptual'' outline above. And the devil is in the details. Branden> If you're so certain that the Foundational Documents portion Branden> of your resolution will pass, then you have no reason to Branden> object to ballots for it and my resolution to be issued Branden> simultaneously. If the Project Secretary and you agree, and Branden> you amend your proposal to omit the part already included in Branden> my proposal, perhaps we have a solution. You are the one blithely calling my proposal a superset. In which case, you should have no objections to letting my proposal be tried, and, it it passes, it fully subsumes yours, right? Our stances on this are different. Almost diametrically opposing, as people havce pointed out. Mere polemics can't hide that fact. manoj irritated -- I always say beauty is only sin deep. Saki, "Reginald's Choir Treat" Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/> 1024R/C7261095 print CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C