On Sat, Jul 03, 1999 at 04:34:13PM -0400, Richard Stallman wrote: > Wichert's proposal would focus more emphasis to this distinction, by > according it more importance. It will show the users that Debian > means business about the distinction.
If I cannot find it when I look specifically for it, it's not there.
> If things happen as Richard would like, non-free will essentially become
> available only to those who ask "is <something non-free> packaged?" on
> irc or in an email to the lists.
>
> If things happen "as I would like", non-free software will be a thing
> of the past. But if you're are talking about the proposal I made to
> Debian a few months ago, that is an exaggeration. If the non-free
> packages are available from a separate site, anyone who wants to
> publicize that site could do so. I think Carter would do that.
> Probably others would, too.
Every single developer in fact would have no choice but to do so. Our
security is based on pgp. And my attempts yesterday to use gpg in place
of pgp for package signing were ... unsuccessful. I've not given up
however.
> However, this change would make it possible for others (me, perhaps
> Wichert) to refer users to the Official Debian system, without
> referring them at the same time to the non-free packages. So it is
> true that users who get Debian via the GNU Project's references to
> Debian would not find out about the non-free packages *through us*.
Wichert's proposal doesn't say that. It just says we'll move the files
to a different site. It totally neglects mention of the web pages, apt's
configuration files and the comments contained within them, etc.
Since Wichert is saying that he wants to vote on your proposal, I can
only assume that the only way to find non-free software when it's done is
to be psychic or know that we moved it (which we won't tell people) and
where it went (which we also won't tell them)...
If this is not the case, I wish Wichert would SAY SOMETHING and I will
withdraw my objections.
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Joseph Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debian GNU/Linux developer
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<Knghtbrd> you know, Linux needs a platform game starring Tux
<Knghtbrd> kinda Super Marioish, but with Tux and things like little cyber
bugs and borgs and that sort of thing ...
<Knghtbrd> And you have to jump past billgatus and hit the key to drop him
into the lava and then you see some guy that looks like a RMS
or someone say "Thank you for rescuing me Tux, but Linus
Torvalds is in another castle!"
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