Hi, On Mon, Jan 12, 2004 at 10:52:29AM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote: > On Sun, Jan 11, 2004 at 08:40:17PM +0100, Osamu Aoki wrote: > > I do understand the negative feeling of carrying archive called > > "non-free" in Debian, the Free Software Organization. At the same > > time, I understand the practical benefits of the continuation of > > archive contents now called "non-free". > > > > In light of above understandings, let me seek "removal of non-free" > > with much more amicable context in which the practical function of > > our archive as a whole is maintained. This can be achieved by the > > creation of "semi-free" with yet-to-be-determined(*) clear > > guideline. Right now, we only have implicit guideline for > > "non-free". > > one obvious problem with this is that it implies approval of > almost-free licenses. while those of us who want to keep non-free > want to do so for practical and convenience reasons (as well as > honoring the promise made to our users), i think it's safe to say that > none of us approve of non-free licenses, nor do we want to encourage > them, or encourage the belief that they are good enough. > > calling it 'non-free' serves all the needs of practicality and honour, > while at the same time expressing the truth that the license is not > good enough. > > > another problem is that keeping only the 'semi-free' stuff is a kick > in the teeth to those who need the proprietary non-free stuff. it > certainly doesn't serve their needs, unless you credit patronising > notions like "it's for their own good" and "we know what's best for > them" > > > the solution is obvious, as it always has been. those who don't want > non-free can choose not to have it in their /etc/apt/sources.list. > easy. in fact, this is the default behaviour, so no action is > required...users have to override the default in order to get non-free > and contrib packages.
No problem thinking this way ... This is reasonable. "one of the many reasons why removing non-free is a dumb idea" This discussion started by you left me a strange feeling on your position but now I am clear. Thanks. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]