On Wed, 7 Jan 2004 14:45:34 -0500, Dale E Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> I understand your point. But it's obvious to me that making a > change will require effort above and beyond making it. If the > initial change is most of the cost, perhaps it's worth it. > What if today we put in a CNAME for nonfree.org to debian.org and > then configured apache to not show non-free directories for people > coming in on debian.org http requests? (Ignore ftp and rsync for > the moment for the sake of discussion.) Would doing just _that > much_ be too much of an inconvience to the users? If it is, then > what would it take to make that much of a change palatable? I do not think thast would be too much inconvenience, no. Indeed, creating such an alternative would cause me to change my stance. I am mostly opposed to "just drop the support, if it was that important it shall magically materialize" aspects of the proposal. > Agreed. I came into this discussion thinking the removal of > non-free was "obviously" a good idea. I'm still not sure what the > right answer is (there is a lot of rhetoric and intellectual > masturbation clouding the real discussion). Overall, I guess that > like always it's going to be an "action is louder than words" > situation, and until someone cares enough to create a parallel > nonfree.org and work out all of the details, the status quo will > remain. The irony is that it's probably going to have to be someone > who is very pro-removal of nonfree who does it. I would be willing to take time away from Debian in order to help support such an insfrastructure. manoj -- To have died once is enough. Publius Vergilius Maro (Virgil) Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/> 1024R/C7261095 print CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]