On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 12:59, David wrote: > On Tue, Mar 16, 2004 at 04:57:30AM +1100, bob parker wrote: > > On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 21:31, Beretta wrote: > > > > Yeah and who can tie up their phone line 24 hours. I did d/l a full iso > > (Knoppix) on my dialup at 8/24 through the night only. It took a week. > > And then it was out a bit or 3 and failed the md5sum check, repaired by > > rsync fortunately. > > > > Any way for me on my dialup, the d/l is 3 months. > > I, too, am on dialup. And I, too, have downloaded ISO's, using much the > same strateg you did. It's slow and tedious, but it is feasible. > > But as far as _we_ are concerned with the the number of CD's, I don't > think it should be a problem. I don't see _any_ reason to download the > whole set unless you wish to be a collector. For one thing, after > several security updates, many of the packages will probably be outdated > before we even would install them.
That is where jigdo comes right into it's own. I keep the iso images of my Woody set of 7 on my 80 gig hard drive. So I create the upgraded images from 1. The original iso 2. /var/cache/apt/ (iirc). I keep the system uptodate so jigdo gets what I have already downloaded. I use apt-get autoclean but not apt-get clean so I keep my updated packages. 3. The Debian mirrors last. > I think the recommendation of > downloading just what you need to get a secure network system up and > running and doing a net install of the rest is the wisest choice. For many people yes. I supply cds to my local lug members so I need them all. > > It seems that the argument that there's too much in the distro, but one > still wants it ALL seems a bit circular to me. If you get it all, > you're going to have to download a bunch one way or the other. If > there's too much, why would you want all of it in the first place? It > seems that it's much more logical to first download a few (however much > that would be) necessary packages, and then begin picking what you need > and really want. For one thing, it's more reliable. When you download > a ~700 Meg image, it has to be correct in its entirety. One little > glitch and you've lost it all unless you can get it straightened out. When that happens rsync is very much your friend. I've corrected full sized iso's on my rubber band powered dialup in as little as 5 minutes, more often 20 minutes, which is stunning compared to the time it takes to d/l the iso in the first place. More than likely need to use rsync with the --ignore-times option. Jigdo will be even more important when I have 13 images + 2 dvd images to maintain. Bob Parker -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
