On Sun, Feb 08, 2004 at 11:04:57PM -0500, Jeff Elkins wrote: > On Sunday 08 February 2004 7:18 pm, Marc Wilson wrote: <snip> > > > > Then they should use it. I couldn't care less whether someone uses Debian, > > Knoppix, SuSE, Mandrake, or even Windows. Cluebies have been shooting > > themselves in the foot since time immemorial, and it's not up to me to make > > a choice for them as to what they should use.
shooting foot == learning; > > But *don't* call it something it's not, and *don't* expect to get support > > for it while you're calling it something it's not. nobody should expect anything from a list ever <snip> > > Cut out the "stupid/cluebie" nonsense. You hurt Debian, Linux, and OSS in > general with this elitist attitude. At first blush I agreed with this statement. Then I realized that the reason debian-user works is because knowledge comes before courtesy. There's no denying that live-cds rock. When I got a new laptop, it needed Linux on it fast and I wanted it to be Debian-based. I find X windows to be a tough nut to crack and I take no particular joy in getting it to work. I choose Knoppix because it got all the hardware running on the first try. I didn't know about mepis at the time. Things are working pretty well but there were some tense moments after an update/upgrade that experience paid off in solving the problems. The Deutsch-orientation of Knoppix is mutable. As a result of this thread I now know that unstable is not very secure and that Knoppix is a branch project of Debian/unstable. I also know that Sarge is getting a hardware configurator added. I also know that if I update/upgrade one day, I might get hosed because I brute force merged a branched project of Debian/unstable with the main Debian/unstable. My plan: 1. Avoid upgrade/update Knoppix-based partition; read Debian security announcements regulary to assess my level of risk periodically 2. If I need help with my laptop from debian-user I will state that I am using a Knoppix-based installation 3. Partition the remaining 10G on my lapttop HDD for experiment with Sarge's loader (I recall that they need people to use it to test it); once I get it working then I'll wipe down the Knoppix-based partition Live-cds are here to stay as are the install-to-HDD options. Perhaps Debian should endorse live-cds if possible. I think Debian will be getting lots of new attention now that RH is dead and Debian-based live-cds are catching on. There could be an on-slaught of "stupid" questions. -- Mike Two hundred years ago, we note mischievously, the average American or European had a standard of living not very much superior to that of the average man in India or China. -- dailyreckoning.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
