On 2025-08-08 16:19:28 +0200, Hans wrote: > since my upgrade from fine running bookworm to trixie I am runing > into several issues with X- Server. I am running NOT Wayland but > Xorg (X11).
FYI, I'm using Debian/unstable (thus now matching trixie) with X and FVWM (no desktop environment), and I don't have any issue, but here, X runs as root (see below). > The issues are for example a > > 1. long delay when X is starting There isn't just X, but also various scripts. The standard error is normally redirected to ~/.xsession-errors, so you could look at it. [...] > All these things let me believe, that something basic is not working > correct. I made several tries to upgrade: > > 1. Restored the last working hardrive image of bookworm and then > upgraded again = same issue After just restoring, do you have any issue? In order to find the cause, you could try to upgrade key packages (with their dependencies) one by one. > 5. Checked logs, tried configurations and lots more = no success Something else you can try: run X with strace and time information (e.g. -t or -rt). You have checked that $DISPLAY is ":0", right? (i.e. it does not try some network connection, even local) > I discovered, when starting X as user "root", it is working fine, [...] In my case, Xorg always runs as root (Debian bug 809067 in lightdm). > As both computers are showing similar symptoms after upgrade to > trixie, I think, it is an Xserver related issue. If you first try to upgrade just xserver-xorg-core, you may be able to confirm. -- Vincent Lefèvre <[email protected]> - Web: <https://www.vinc17.net/> 100% accessible validated (X)HTML - Blog: <https://www.vinc17.net/blog/> Work: CR INRIA - computer arithmetic / Pascaline project (LIP, ENS-Lyon)
