On Mon 17 Feb 2025 at 00:56:38 (-0500), gene heskett wrote: > On 2/16/25 20:04, David Wright wrote: > > On Sun 16 Feb 2025 at 15:31:41 (-0500), gene heskett wrote: > > [ … ] > > > > > The boot menu still > > > starts the debian version which quickly becomes non-responsive, > > > quickly being about 30 seconds. > > What's the boot menu? > xfce4
That suggests that you started it yourself, from a menu in your XFCE4 Desktop Environment. > > > So I killall it, and run the beta by > > > opening an xfce4 shell and typing ./thunderbird/thunderbird. And I'm > > > still waiting on trixie, > > So why not start the beta to begin with, and leave the bookworm one alone? > > Starting the bookworm version seems to be hardwired as soon as I login > as me. And that suggests that you have an entry for TB in XFCE4's Autostart settings—just take it out! Or change it to the version you want to run. > How do I go about straceing things to see if I can get a clue as to > what is killing the debian version of thunderbird? Strace output is so > verbose, any problem is lost in the noise of its verbosity. Gigabytes > of it. > > > If you're waiting on trixie, why waste time trying to debug the > > bookworm version? And why do you want to strace it if you don't > > want to look at its output? > Its hundreds of pages, looking all over the system before finding > anything. It should remember where stuff is, but does not. That's a non-answer. Cheers, David.