On Thursday, 23-01-2025 at 14:57 George at Clug wrote:
> On Thursday, 23-01-2025 at 04:25 Rafał Lichwała wrote:
> > Hello George,
> >
> > >> Welcome to Wayland !
> > [...]
> > >> I mostly use XFCE with X11, for both Host and Guest
> >
> > :-D
> >
> > >> I also found that "Resize to VM", does not work either, please
> test
> > and let me know if you find this too.
> >
> > I don't know even how it should work, so I guess I don't need it.
> > I've got the given resolution set in Guest (FullHD) and then it is
> > scaled accordingly and properly to the given Guest window size in
> Host.
> > So what does "Resize to VM" mean in that case?
>
> Rafał, I agree that setting the guest VM to full screen is great at
> times, but I most of my time, I run my VMs in Windows at a smaller
> resolution than my main screeen.
>
> I often use multiple VMs running at one time. As I use a large screen
> I like running each VM in a separate Window at a lower resolution than
> my main screen. Hence "Resize to VM" is great as it quickly sets the
> VM's Window to the resolution that I had set in the VM.
> https://docs.redhat.com/en/documentation/red_hat_enterprise_linux/7/html/virtualization_getting_started_guide/virt-manager-user-interface-description#VM_window_menu_bar
> "Resize to VM Resizes the display on the full screen to the size and
> resolution configured for the virtual machine."
>
>
> >From my XFCE host, I tested Debian 12 GNOME, Debian 12 KDE, Debian 12
> XFCE, LDME.
>
>
>
> Only Debian 12 GNOME and Debian 12 XFCE would Resize to VM.
>
>
> Debian 12 KDE would not, and it did not matter if I was using X11 or
> Wayland, so maybe something to do with QT ?
I do not know if it is related to QT or the KDE compositor, as even LDME
(Cinnamon) is using X11 and does not resize to VM for me.
I wonder what needs to be in the code of those systems that do not resize,
while others do?
I will let smarter people than me to figure it out.
Thanks for raising these issues.
Have you tried file-drag-and-drop from Host to Client (i.e. VM) ?
This works for me in LDME, but not in KDE. I would prefer more consistency, as
all this leaves me wondering what works and what does not for different Linux
configurations. It takes time to test all options for each possible
configuration. Which is why I admire Debian and other people who all this
testing to ensure that Linux programs work well together and with kernel
updates. So much work, so much effort.
George.
>
>
>
> Note: Debian 12 GNOME
> # env | grep -E -i 'x11|xorg|wayland'
> XDG_SESSION_TYPE=wayland
> XAUTHORITY=/run/user/1000/.mutter-Xwaylandauth.7X1V02
> WAYLAND_DISPLAY=wayland-0
>
>
>
> >
> > >> I would like to test Gnome-Wayland to see if they have found a
>
> > solution? If you can, please test Gnome-Wayland to see.
> >
> > Yes, it works on GNOME-Wayland. You still need to install
> spice-vdagent,
> > but no config edit is needed.
> > But that's not a solution for me - I don't like GNOME
> +1
>
> There are many reasons why I don't use GNOME.
>
> One reason is that I read it was designed with the premise that users
> only do one task at a time, hence use one program in full screen at a
> time. I normally use several programs at a time, and switching between
> them in GNOME is very ineffective. I prefer to have several Windows
> all visible at the same time. I also like these windowed programs set
> to specific sizes, causing some to be partly overlapped, hence a
> Tiling Windows Manager is not for me either.
>
> I have found GNOME to be a bit clumsy for using multiple windows
> programs.
>
> Below you said you use your VM in Full Screen. I wonder why? Would you
> use each of your programs full screen too? Maybe GNOME would work
> better for you than it does for me?
>
> I have a personal interest in GUI's, usability, and how people differ
> in their use computer interfaces.
>
> > (Unity/Classic/Flashback/Metacity... whatever...).
> > I like KDE Plasma.
> +1 (and I also like XFCE, simple, fast, effective)
> >
> > >> Maybe these issue are limitations with Wayland
> >
> > I don't think so - I've found a solution based on clipboard-sync
> > (separate software, unfortunately not in Debian repo).
> >
> > >> or as you suggested, spice has not found a way to make these
> > features work under Wayland and KDE's compositor?
> >
> > Yes, it looks like so.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Rafal
> >
> >
> >
>
