David, Thanks for your reply.
On Tuesday, 31-12-2024 at 12:12 David Wright wrote: > On Tue 31 Dec 2024 at 07:34:20 (+1100), George at Clug wrote: > > > In Debian Bookworm installations, why is gvfs-backends and gvfs-fuse > > not installed by default when installing Debian with XFCE? > > Because gvfs will function without those backends, so it would > be against policy to depend on those packages. OTOH gvfs-daemons > appears to be a dependency, and includes a minimal set of backends. > > > For network browsing in the thunar file manager, install gvfs-backends > > and gvfs-fuse, and add your users to the "fuse" group (sudo adduser > > fuse). > > > What is the issue of not having these two packages installed? > > The package descriptions tell you: > > "This package contains the afc, afp, archive, cdda, dav, dnssd, ftp, > gphoto2, http, mtp, network, sftp, smb and smb-browse backends." > > and > > "This package contains the gvfs-fuse server that exports gvfs mounts > to all applications using FUSE." > > > But when try to add my userid to the fuse group, I discover that the > > fuse group does not exist, why is this? > > Because there's no need for it as /dev/fuse has been read/writeable > since jessie; and no one has updated the wiki. > > > I think I found the "fuse" package was not installed. Should I install > > the fuse package? > > # apt install fuse3 > > I don't understand: fuse and fuse3 aren't the same package. I see that > gvfs-fuse depends on fuse3, so I assume fuse won't work. I did notice that when I installed gvfs-fuse that gvfs-fuse3 was removed. Hence I assumed that gvfs-fuse3 is a later version of gvfs-fuse. gvfs-fuse3 package does not exist in my LDME, nor in Debian Bookworm Gnome, so I am confused. > > > I then created the fuse group and added my userid to the fuse group. > > Is this correct? Is doing this a problem? Does creating the fuse > > group and adding the userid to the group actually help? > > > > # groupadd fuse > > # adduser fuse > > I don't think there's any harm in your creating random groups > for fun :) Thanks for this info, in future I will not bother creating the group and adding my userid to it. > > > With the popularity of XFCE, I would have expected that "network > > browsing in the thunar file manager" would be fully supported by > > default by now. Is there a reason it is not? My guess is there must > > be some policy related reason. > > No idea. Maybe the answer is at > https://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=157776 > and maybe not. I don't use gvfs, so most of the information above > comes from reading the package files. Well it will remain a mystery to me until one day finding file shares just works, lol. > > Cheers, > David. > >
