On Tue, Aug 20, 2024 at 07:34:33AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 08/20/2024 05:45 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: > > On 08/20/2024 04:30 AM, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > > [snip] > > > There will be non i386 installer medium for Trixie when released though > > > i386 will be retained as a release architecture. > > > > Can you point me to the details. I have two i386 I wish to use as long > > as possible. >
Thanks to my colleagues with a good memory: it was announced after the Cambridge mini-DebConf by the release team: https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2023/12/msg00003.html "A future for the i386 architecture ================================== Insofar as they still do, we anticipate that the kernel, d-i and images teams will cease to support i386 in the near future. Following that, there are two routes into running i386: 1. as a multi-arch option on an otherwise amd64 system 2. as an i386 chroot on another architecture system We're not planning to make i386 a partial architecture in the way [1] Ubuntu has, arch:any will still contain i386 so everything builds by default. Maintainers who wish to drop i386 support can do so *after* coordination with the reverse (build) dependencies of their package, as with dropping support for any other architecture. We also like to note that we have no opposition to changes to the baseline when these changes land (it's a port matter)." > I don't know if this is what Andrew was referring to, but I just found: > > Debian 13 will continue to support 32 bit x86 processors, however > > the lower limit is now i686. > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian_version_history > which refers to > "Debian Trixie release notes" > https://www.debian.org/releases/trixie/release-notes/issues.en.html#i386-is-i686 > which states (in part) > > 5.1.13. Baseline for 32-bit PC is now i686¶ > > > > Debian's support for 32-bit PC (known as the Debian architecture i386) > > now no longer covers any i586 processor. The new minimum requirement > > is i686. This means that the i386 architecture now requires the "long NOP" > > (NOPL) > > instruction, while bullseye still supported some i586 processors without > > that instruction (e.g. the "AMD Geode"). > As above: there won't be an installer. Hope this helps, as ever, Andrew Cater (amaca...@debian.org) > [snip] > >