On Sat, 2024-08-03 at 23:49 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> On 2024-08-01 12:12:31 -0700, Van Snyder wrote:
> > On Thu, 2024-08-01 at 15:26 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> > > Should I switch to the proprietary nvidia driver on these
> > > machines?
> > 
> > Without NVidia's graphics accelerator, using software rendering
> > with
> > nouveau is painfully slow. Sometimes even the mouse cursor is
> > frozen.
> 
> Well, with an old machine (~ 10 years old), nouveau was indeed
> painfully slow (e.g. when moving a window or when scrolling),
> but only with multiple screens. I did not have any issue with
> a single screen. And my new machines are OK with nouveau.
> 
> > This is especially the case if you're looking at a web page that
> > has an
> > annoying video ad playing in a sidebar.
> > 
> > The NVidia 390 driver is not available for Debian 12 (and it might
> > not
> > have been available for Debian 11). I wasted a lot of my time, and
> > a
> > lot of bandwidth in this discussion list, trying to install it. On
> > my
> > desktop, I installed a Quadro K2200 card to replace by GeForce card
> > --
> > so now a computer that I use less frequently is stuck with nouveau.
> > On
> > a laptop, I'm stuck with nouveau or returning to Debian 10.
> 
> The NVidia 390 driver is still available in unstable:
> 
> zira:~> apt-show-versions -a nvidia-legacy-390xx-driver
> nvidia-legacy-390xx-driver:amd64 390.157-6 install ok installed
> No stable version
> No stable-updates version
> No testing version
> nvidia-legacy-390xx-driver:amd64 390.157-8 unstable ftp.debian.org
> No experimental version
> nvidia-legacy-390xx-driver:amd64/unstable 390.157-6 upgradeable to
> 390.157-8
> 
> I suppose that you can use it even with Debian 12 (I haven't checked
> the dependencies, though), but you need to request the unstable
> packages in your sources.list file.

Either it's not available, or I'm doing something wrong (or
incomplete).

I added /etc/apt/preferences.d/nvidia-390 containing

Package: nvidia-legacy-390xx-driver
Pin: release o=debian a=unstable
Pin-Priority: 10

Then, to avoid sucking anything more from unstable, I added
/etc/apt/apt.conf.d/my-default containing

APT::Default-Release "stable";

Then

# apt-show-versions -a nvidia-legacy-390xx-driver
nvidia-legacy-390xx-driver not installed (not available)

# nvidia-detect
Detected NVIDIA GPUs:
04:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation GF108
[GeForce GT 630] [10de:0f00] (rev a1)

Checking card: NVIDIA Corporation GF108 [GeForce GT 630] (rev a1)
Your card is only supported by the 390 legacy drivers series, which is
only available up to bullseye.

This is a desktop, and the graphics card is indeed a "card" so I could,
in principle, replace it with a newer one.

On my laptop (Dell Vostro 1700)

# nvidia-detect 
Detected NVIDIA GPUs:
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation G86M
[GeForce 8400M GS] [10de:0427] (rev a1)

Checking card: NVIDIA Corporation G86M [GeForce 8400M GS] (rev a1)
Uh oh. Your card is not supported by any driver version up to
535.183.01.
A newer driver may add support for your card.
Newer driver releases may be available in backports, unstable or
experimental.

is soldered to the
motherboard. https://www.nvidia.com/Download/Find.aspx says the 340
driver is needed here too.

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