Dnia 2024-02-23, o godz. 14:03:50 Nicolas George <geo...@nsup.org> napisał(a):
> Greg Wooledge (12024-02-23): > > What was "blind" about his anaylsis? It looked pretty well thought > > out to me. He showed actual examples of how space-inefficient it > > is, and provided a theoretical example of how one misbehaved > > service could flush out the important logs of well-behaved > > services. > > The selective blindness here is to look only at the bad things. The > drawbacks mentioned exist, but they are in part there for reasons, in > order to fix the issues of the previous solutions. I wrote about the stuff you explicitly asked, saving the logs on disk, because you apparently can't stand a conversation about alternatives. First you bitch I wrote about "the old stuff you know" now you bitch about not going thru entire manpage of journalctl features. Decide > > An analysis that mentions only the bad things and conclude to > recommend using the previous solutions without even discussing their > own drawbacks is not worth our time. > The selective blindness is your problem, not "us". You decided "old stuff" didn't work for you and got into shouting match when I described you in excessive detail why what you want to do is impossible under systemd. And you got angry that someone described you why you can't do that. > > If anything, the person who's blindly following a path is *you*. > > You're looking to do something that multiple people have said is > > not possible, > > Multiple? > > > and when they offer you an alternative, your claws come out. > > When somebody spends one line answering the question and then pages > “offering an alternative” by explaining things a baby sysadmin would > already know, I deduce they are not much above the level of baby > sysadmin themselves, and it cancels any trust I could have put in the > one-line answer. > I assumed that you are a beginner because if you read a manpage of journald/ctl you would know what you are asking is not possible. And the fact you haven't mentioned any other "traditional" way of doing it made it look like that too, a newbie linux user that didn't knew it existed. So I wrote it with detail needed for beginner to do the job. I would say I am sorry for mistaking your "skill" level but you already proven abilty to read the documentation with understand is above you, so I am not. Like, really what kind of person gets angry when they get too much details in instruction? -- Mariusz Gronczewski (XANi) <xani...@gmail.com> GnuPG: 0xEA8ACE64 https://devrandom.eu